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View Poll Results: Would you be interested in talking about how you'd build a 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10? | |
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11-11-2012, 03:49 PM
|  | Registered User HPF Technology: Protecting the Pocket since 2007 | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dukeorock Picture?  | At your service! Notice how the strap is attached. I used a lighter to seal the end so the nylon wouldn't fray. Then I folded it over 3 times and ran a screw through it with a washer. If I was cool, I'd have used black hardware.
Ideally the ends would be sewn, but that would require equipment. I'll bet that you could get excellent results with just a dab of your PL glue to hold the ends together. The strap doesn't really need to be adjustable like mine is. I found that strap on some cheap bag that I got at a trade show and was getting ready to throw away.
Also note the top jack, so I can slide this up against a wall, or put it on a chair, without the Speakon getting in the way. That's innovation.  | 
11-11-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fdeck Also note the top jack, so I can slide this up against a wall, or put it on a chair, without the Speakon getting in the way. That's innovation.  | That IS innovation! It is absolutely brilliant to put the jack on top. Why hasn't anybody else built 'em that way? Much more convenient and thoughtfully designed. I love it!
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11-11-2012, 05:55 PM
| | | Aren't we a bit off topic here? As I understand it, the topic of this thread is to discuss whether you would be interested in discussing how you'd build a 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10. Not to actually have the discussion per se.
Yes, I would be somewhat interested.  | 
11-11-2012, 06:46 PM
|  | Registered User HPF Technology: Protecting the Pocket since 2007 | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | Maybe we need another poll:
Would you be interested in discussing whether you'd be interested in discussing how you'd discuss building a 24lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10?  | 
11-11-2012, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by superjesus That IS innovation! It is absolutely brilliant to put the jack on top. Why hasn't anybody else built 'em that way? Much more convenient and thoughtfully designed. I love it! | That is a really cool solution...I couldn't put the jack on top because I keep all my stuff in a rack, but for this purpose, it's brilliant  | 
11-11-2012, 07:53 PM
|  | Short Scale Addict | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NE CT | | I love the top mounted jack! My SVT210AV's only have 1/4" jacks so I use a cables made up with these: 
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11-11-2012, 07:56 PM
|  | Short Scale Addict | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NE CT | | | Oh, and BTW my ideal amp would have a variable HPF in it - anybody think they'll start doing that soon?
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11-11-2012, 07:57 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | My ART PC II has one. Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadkill Oh, and BTW my ideal amp would have a variable HPF in it - anybody think they'll start doing that soon? |
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11-11-2012, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill Oh, and BTW my ideal amp would have a variable HPF in it - anybody think they'll start doing that soon? | When I was helping with the design of the EA Doubler I told them that (especially with upright) a variable HPF was needed. I thought that they would know enough to put a 24db/octave HPF in. They put a 6db/octave one in. About as useful as mammaries on a bull. And they said it was too late to change. Oh well.
Talking about doing a digital amp with all that. And EQ that I like. Got the digital amp designer but still looking for someone to work on the preamp. The amp guy is awesome----maybe it will come to fruition. | 
11-11-2012, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fdeck At your service! Notice how the strap is attached. I used a lighter to seal the end so the nylon wouldn't fray. Then I folded it over 3 times and ran a screw through it with a washer. If I was cool, I'd have used black hardware.
Ideally the ends would be sewn, but that would require equipment. I'll bet that you could get excellent results with just a dab of your PL glue to hold the ends together. The strap doesn't really need to be adjustable like mine is. I found that strap on some cheap bag that I got at a trade show and was getting ready to throw away.
Also note the top jack, so I can slide this up against a wall, or put it on a chair, without the Speakon getting in the way. That's innovation.  | I, for one, think fdeck's more than cool, no matter the color of his hardware.
Yes, very cool all around. When I did my 1x15 cab, I was really wanting to do a side-mounted jack but the possibility of using a second one pushed it back to the back. I also liked the built-in cord in this little guy: 1x8 DIY practice cab build
For the upcoming 2x12, it'll be jacks on the side.
Also, with your strap, that reminds me: more cabs should come with cases with backpack straps. As the bulkiest thing to move, putting it on the shoulders makes it a lot easier to carry. I know it does when I'm carrying an upright. I guess if you've got a big cab AND upright, you're SOL. But IME that doesn't happen. Tiny combo goes in the hand or on the hand truck.
And while we're dishing out crazy ideas for crazy light cabs: Floor tom legs. Stick 'em on a lightweight cab and have the coolest and easiest to hear piece of equipment at the gig.
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Cab on tom legs = awesomesauce | 
11-11-2012, 10:07 PM
| | | | ^ this is why my bottom cab is a stool.
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11-11-2012, 10:29 PM
|  | Registered User HPF Technology: Protecting the Pocket since 2007 | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | Floor tom legs is a great idea.
Of course you'd have to put a drum key on your keychain, and then people would think...  | 
11-11-2012, 10:49 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SF Bay Area | | | Nah, I'd just use the drummers.
Not unlike I used the guitar player's picks for the last year while I was in denial about the whole using a pick thing... | 
11-11-2012, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by astack Nah, I'd just use the drummers.
Not unlike I used the guitar player's picks for the last year while I was in denial about the whole using a pick thing... | And before anyone claims that's off-topic, you know a great way to cut down on your gear load? Mooch. 0 lb 4x10. 
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11-12-2012, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by astack I, for one, think fdeck's more than cool, no matter the color of his hardware.
Yes, very cool all around. When I did my 1x15 cab, I was really wanting to do a side-mounted jack but the possibility of using a second one pushed it back to the back. I also liked the built-in cord in this little guy: 1x8 DIY practice cab build
For the upcoming 2x12, it'll be jacks on the side. | That driver just grabbed me the right way. It is might be way better than the AM radio speaker in my 67 Falcon (or it might be the same), but that is the sound I want, bass as heard through an AM car radio of the 60s. Seems 89dB per driver is a bit shy of anything I've owned except an Acme. I googled in vain for frequency response charts for car AM radio speakers. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...-3550-/55-3550 looks like a low B. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...-1240-/55-1240 has a clear cone. Does anyone remember color organs?
Throwback time! Imagine this in the back of a cab full of those http://www.ebay.com/itm/vtg-Disco-Li...-/121018195655
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11-17-2012, 02:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big Bethel, Virginia | | OK, trying to be serious now. Ran across the 8FE200 http://usspeaker.com/faital%20pro%208fe200-1.htm and thought 6 in a cab would be dandy.
9.4 x 18.8 x 28.2 internal, 10.4 x 19.8 x 29.2 external, 6 x 8fe200 = $360, 5.3 ohm cab impedance, 780 wrms.
Lots of questions, mostly basic.
What does it MEAN to tune a cab to a particular freq? How does that affect sound?
What does it MEAN that this driver's resonance is 80Hz?
What does it MEAN that I see it smoothly reproducing down to 20Hz?
Can I just throw the figures into this calculator and get port specs? http://www.linearteam.dk/default.asp...ventcalculator
How does the fdeck HPF figure into cab design?
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12-06-2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kurosawa Lots of questions, mostly basic. | Well, since nobody else responded I'll give it a go  . Quote: |
What does it MEAN to tune a cab to a particular freq? How does that affect sound?
| The air in the cab will resonate at the tuning frequency, kinda like an organ pipe, and that will "fight" the driver - see next answer. Quote: |
.What does it MEAN that this driver's resonance is 80Hz?
| The driver's cone "likes" to vibrate at that frequency and tends to over-excurt at that frequency and "fart out". That's why you want the cab to "fight" at that frequency. Quote: |
What does it MEAN that I see it smoothly reproducing down to 20Hz?
| Not much  . Sure, why not?  Quote: |
How does the fdeck HPF figure into cab design?
| Not at all normally. If you feel adventurous you could tune the box below fs or seal it and us the HPF to prevent farting. I prefer sealed boxes myself but if they are small enough they don't allow the cone to over-excurt anyways - the tradeoff is lower output down low but sealed boxs fall off slower than tuned boxes (6db/octave vs 12db/octave).
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12-06-2012, 04:59 PM
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05-15-2013, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill Good point! It would more be for the inventory, rights to construction details (and maybe name?) than the corporation itself as that is burdened by what he owes folks  . OTOH maybe I could do something for those if I could get the inventory discounted by the outstanding debts? I have no idea what he has for inventory but I'd wild arse guess maybe a couple grand or so? I know he has no drivers. Those handles look custom made: http://www.flitecabs.com/bass/ | Gerry Suprenant are you out there? If so, please reply to this post. Your "reputation" is at stake. Where are you? Please contact me I sent you $825 in March 2012...you stopped answering my calls and emails in July 2012...where's my cabinet? Where's my money? Has anyone out there actually ordered and received anything from Flite Cabinets since March 2012? If so please contact me.  | 
05-16-2013, 10:49 AM
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He's a drummer so even if he can read some  he's not gonna be hangin' out here. 
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