Xsonics Bass Cab Company - Page 7

Ncognito · #**121** 01-31-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kringle77

The cab is built really well and Nick actually made some last minute improvements on the design based on our conversations. Thats a big plus and something you can only do with a small builder.

Your feeback has been very much appreciated Chris. Getting my boxes the best they can be is the goal!!

will33 · #**122** 01-31-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kringle77

Im not sure if Im sick or not but, I did puke through my nose and lose 4lbs overnight. If I feel better after work, I'll make the video for this cab.

Unless it was alcohol/drug induced, I would consider that sick.

Or maybe got ahold of some bad food.......

Nice to hear good reports on these cabs. Between this and the glasstones, it's got me pondering screwing around with this alignment now. The voicing, on paper anyway, seems close to how I eq a lot of conventional cabs.

Good luck on the venture.

**Chef** · #**123** 01-31-2013, 09:15 AM

Puking through your nose is total rock star method.
That, or total biker.

One time, me and Chud were coming back home from a BMW motorcycle rally.
He was in front of me, and he started swerving around all of a sudden, and then pulled to the shoulder.
I pulled up behind him, and he'd been puking in his full face helmet.
Freakin' awesome

...what a mess!

fwiw, Chud stands for "can't help using drugs."
I can't tell y'all his real name.

I bet Kringle stands for something cool too.

kringle77 · #**124** 01-31-2013, 10:52 AM

Kringle does stand for something. Truth, justice and the american way. Just like Dick Cheyna but, the opposite. Came home from work, slept for 2 hours with the gentle hum of a speaker being broken in playing in the background. I need to go into town and find some soup. It is blowing and snowing like crazy here. I can't even tell what direction it's coming from.

kringle77 · #**125** 02-01-2013, 07:43 PM

Here is a link to the xsonics video. It really doesn't do it justice. I had to keep the volume down really low because of the neighbor and I think that it negatively effected the low end punch in the video. It's every bit as thick as the nv cab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y9ct...ature=youtu.be

kringle77 · #**126** 02-01-2013, 07:53 PM

Just watched the video. On the parts where I have the tweet turned off, the clip sounds very much like what Im hearing. For some reason, with the tweet turned on, the camera sounds different. It really smoothed everything out, and not in a good way. It took alot of the punch and growl out of the sound. That didn't really happen but, thats what the clip sounds like. I'll have to do some more clips with just the woofer and no tweet.

::::BASSIST:::: · #**127** 02-01-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kringle77

Here is a link to the xsonics video. It really doesn't do it justice. I had to keep the volume down really low because of the neighbor and I think that it negatively effected the low end punch in the video. It's every bit as thick as the nv cab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y9ct...ature=youtu.be

Sounds very nice. I think this cab is a real winner!

JGR · #**128** 02-01-2013, 08:54 PM

Cool cab Chris! Good sensitivity specs, looks like you could really get some volume out of it. Can it keep up with the NV in overall level?

kringle77 · #**129** 02-01-2013, 09:11 PM

Yeah, im really loving it. I havent tried to turn it up at all. Gigs are the slowest I have ever seen and its to cold to bring outside. The specs suggest a cab that has the same output as the best 4x10. I don't know that it would jave the same output as the mighty nv412. Almost 2/3 the output i'd say. But, its an easy one handed carry through the snow.

kringle77 · #**130** 02-01-2013, 09:13 PM

At around 6:00 in the video, I think thats a better representation of this cab.

jnewmark · #**131** 02-02-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kringle77

Here is a link to the xsonics video. It really doesn't do it justice. I had to keep the volume down really low because of the neighbor and I think that it negatively effected the low end punch in the video. It's every bit as thick as the nv cab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y9ct...ature=youtu.be

Nice thick, chunky sound, as opposed to the Hathor, which sounded a little thin to me. I think this cab would be great to use in a Blues band, where you need to lay down a nice thick pillow, yet still cut through the mix. Thanks, very impressive. BTW, have you ever played through the Schroeder version of this cab ? Just wondering what the comparisons would be, if any.

kringle77 · #**132** 02-02-2013, 08:44 AM

Never played that schroeder. Used the pl212. Nice cab, very loud, really needed sound dampening though. I prefer the xsonics. It just has all the bugs worked out and need alot less eq than the schroeder. No slam again Jorg here, just my opinion. Jorg is a pretty cool guy and likes to talk to his customers. But yeah, this cab is meaty in all the right places. I'll get to turn it up at mondays practise.

jnewmark · #**133** 02-02-2013, 09:09 AM

I had a Schroeder 12/10 in this type of config, but it did'nt sound anything like the Xsonic. Is it all right to put the cab vertical, or is it supposed to be horizontal as shown on their site ?

kringle77 · #**134** 02-02-2013, 09:26 AM

Nick uses it horizontal, I prefer it vertical. Works for me. I find the off axis disperion of mids/highs is spectacular. Probably because there is only one front firing woofer so, there is very little cancellation. It works as well or better than the mid loaded cabs I've owned in that regaurd. That spike at around 2.5khz really helps keep the high mids strong off axis.

I've been searching for a small cab that was "good enough" to get me through a gig when I couldn't used my big cabs but, this xsonics is more than good enough. It is doing what I want it to do, with a live band and it has it's own thing going on. This is a real world gig cab. I like cabs at home to be pretty. This cab is a hammer. At a live rock gig, you want a hammer. The pretty cab will get buried everytime. But, this isn't an ugly hammer. It can sound beautiful while still being solid in all the right places that make a bass sound good in a mix and on it's own. Apparently this is no small feat since so many company's aren't doing that.

And no, Nick isn't an engineer but, I think that through experimentation he arrived at a design that really works for him and thought that others would dig it too. He is a gigging cat like the rest of us and doesn't have time and money to blow on things that don't work. I can really respect that. He is alot like me in that regaurd, only he had the nerve to do something about it on a larger scale.

MuthaFunk · #**135** 02-02-2013, 10:04 AM

I would love to hear real comparison of the 212 and the Eden 410XLT. Same flat amp, same mic set 1 foot or so away from each. If this will do what my old XLT will, I'll be ordering one right away. Right now I have a Berg AE410 filling the void where my XLT left off.

5StringPocket · #**136** 02-02-2013, 10:18 AM

Chris, I just watched all 3 of your YouTube videos. The Xsonics CF212 sounded very good and was actually my favorite of the 3. I know there is only so much you can tell from videos like this but they are quite helpful and give one a feel for relative comparison. Some things I look for is how even the tone is between strings and up and down the neck, attack and decay of notes for that meat and punch, and how the harmonics sound. Of course this depends on the whole signal chain but if your bass and amp are well set up and solid you can hear any cab anomalies pretty well. This cab seems like a winner; solid lows with good punch and the harmonics and overtones were rich and musical. Not an ugly hammer at all and the form factor is excellent. I take it this one's not going back?

kringle77 · #**137** 02-02-2013, 01:29 PM

No, it's not going back. Trust me, that doesn't happen often. Im thinking about trying the cf210 as well, though there doesn't seem to be a need for anymore output than the cf212. A loud band practise monday and then a loud gig at a boomy sounding club on the 16th. That will be a real test and it's a room where I have used the nv610 and eden cabs very many times.

kringle77 · #**138** 02-02-2013, 01:34 PM

I really didn't feel good when I made that video and I still don't so, the playing wasn't really that good and I wanted to do some different styles or licks but, my brain was kind of foggy. When I get feeling better and get some clean strings on my bass I plan to do a few more videos with this cab. One without a tweet and one with. Still have to do a video of my lds 810 as well. And the b-peg. And........

3rdcurve · #**139** 02-02-2013, 07:44 PM

Favorite tone from all three videos for me was the xsonics cab + sparkle drive, w/o tweet. Super impressed. My current 2x15 uses the same 15's as the Hathor and it sounds great. However, it's not practical for practices and small gigs. The Xsonics looks and sounds to me like a very good option for those uses. My question is how the 212 compares to the Hathor with dispersion. With the mid chamber ports and arrayed 4" drivers, I would think that the AK cab would really shine there.

kringle77 · #**140** 02-02-2013, 08:35 PM

In the overall sense, the hathor probably disperses better but, with the strong midrange output of the cf212 in all areas that are important to bass, the cf212 does very well.
And seriously, once you or someone at a gig stand in front of any cab that low to the ground, it won't matter much. Those frequencies are gone.

The xsonics hits alot harder but, it should given the drivers. The hathor is clearer and more .......I don't know, nuanced? I produces everything well while the cf212 focuses harder on the meat of a good bass tone. I think that came through in the videos. I prefer to not use a tweet even though this one sounds good. I can't wait to get some loud time on the xsonics. I got loud with the hathor and it did well. Two 3012ho's just have more displacement than one 15pr400.