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Old 11-26-2012, 10:42 AM
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There's a pair of Baer 112s for sale on TalkBass right now:

FS/FT 2x Baer ML112's in SF bay area, will trade for tubes
Yea, I saw that. $1200 a pair is not much of a savings over the direct price of $690. We're talking used gear, here. The discount should be at least 30%!
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Well, I took the plunge for a pair from Roger. Should be here end of the week. I'm hoping the freq profile fits my ears - time will tell. I seem to be on an amp/cab buying spree at the moment. Time to sell some more stuff
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Surprised the Berg HD112's aren't getting more love here. Interesting. The size and performance is soooo appealing but admittedly, I have not heard or played them however. so not sure how much definition, growl and grind there is. Are they all lows and highs?
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Yea, I saw that. $1200 a pair is not much of a savings over the direct price of $690. We're talking used gear, here. The discount should be at least 30%!
A pair of new ML112's would run you $1380. Shipping to the midwest area is likely to be in the $60 to $70 range for the pair. $1,200 shipped for a pair with barely any use isn't too bad.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:12 AM
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A pair of new ML112's would run you $1380. Shipping to the midwest area is likely to be in the $60 to $70 range for the pair. $1,200 shipped for a pair with barely any use isn't too bad.
Thanks for the link, Roger. I think the cabs are a bit out of my price range for now, but I'm sure I'll convince myself that I should simply go ahead and spend the dough at some point.

Important question: Can the logo on the grill be easily rotated? I would probably want to stack the cabs vertically, and having your logo readable would be a must!
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:16 AM
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The logos are big, and readable either way, IMO...I dunno if they can be moved.

Somewhere in the Baer megathread, I posted a pic of my two ML112 stacked horizontal, with an "ampwedge" in between.
This sorta splits the diff b/t stacked one way or the other, in therms of "personal monitoring.''
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The GK Neo 112's are a great bang for the buck cab IMO. I just picked up a second one a couple weeks ago. My rig now consists of two Neo 112 cabinets (series 1) and a Genz Benz Shuttle head. Light weight, modular and easy to move around. I bought both of my cabinets used from other TB members for a total of $425!

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Aguilar DB112s are the way to go with the TH500. Looked for one or two used ones or coupon code for Musicians Friend.
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Yesterday I played a jazz gig using my Phil Jones Briefcase for upright, and my G.K. MB 150 combo for electric. Didn't need to use a second 12" MBX & the soundengineer even pulled me out of the mains for the electric tunes!
Sometimes I use 2 MBX's stacked & run it with a Phil Jones D200 head, not as much power as the G.K.MB150 though, but if I need a smaller footprint (well, with 2 instruments that one can only play one at a time...) it's got enough low end & push to suffice too.
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The GK Neo 112's are a great bang for the buck cab IMO. I just picked up a second one a couple weeks ago. My rig now consists of two Neo 112 cabinets (series 1) and a Genz Benz Shuttle head. Light weight, modular and easy to move around. I bought both of my cabinets used from other TB members for a total of $425!
Nice! Did you paint the grills black, did the original owner, or did the Series I have black grills? I gotta say I like the black grills better than the silver ones.
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Nice! Did you paint the grills black, did the original owner, or did the Series I have black grills? I gotta say I like the black grills better than the silver ones.
+ 1 Million! Not sure what it is, but I do not like those Silver/chrome grills at all.
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Aguilar DB112s are the way to go with the TH500. Looked for one or two used ones or coupon code for Musicians Friend.
The cab would be $540 with a standard 15% off coupon, which wouldn't be too bad I guess. I would probably pair it up with a DB112NT ($492 w/ discount). Is there are reason to have two DB112s with 2 horns?

Also, there's an Aguilar GS112 for sale in the TB classified. What's the major difference between the DB112 and the GS112? There doesn't appear to be a lot of love for the GS112.
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The cab would be $540 with a standard 15% off coupon, which wouldn't be too bad I guess. I would probably pair it up with a DB112NT ($492 w/ discount). Is there are reason to have two DB112s with 2 horns?

Also, there's an Aguilar GS112 for sale in the TB classified. What's the major difference between the DB112 and the GS112? There doesn't appear to be a lot of love for the GS112.
GS112's are very nice, but very scooped in the mids in my experience.
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To me the DB is a mid-forward cab (I prefer that), the GS is more mid scooped. The biggest issue for me with the DB112 is size and portability - it is an awkward shape/handle config and I find it hard to carry.
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I'd jump all over the used Genz Benz Focus pair. I've read nice things about the warm tones in that particular series, and if they don't work for you, you'd probably get back more than what you paid for them here in classifieds.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:23 AM
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GS112's are very nice, but very scooped in the mids in my experience.
Wouldn't scooped mids be a good thing if you're trying to get that vintage P-bass (Motown) tone? Can boosting the mids on the TH500 overcome the scoop?

Yea, I'm a bit worried about the schlep factor, too. The Baer and Berg appear to be a bit smaller with a recessed handles.
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Wouldn't scooped mids be a good thing if you're trying to get that vintage P-bass (Motown) tone? Can boosting the mids on the TH500 overcome the scoop?

Yea, I'm a bit worried about the schlep factor, too. The Baer and Berg appear to be a bit smaller with a recessed handles.
I have never reallly found Mid Scooped tone to be good unless I'm playing alone. Mids, and complex mids seem to be where a lot of sonic magic lives "in the band mix" in my experience. and in boomy rooms, mid scoop tone is the kiss of death. i.e. no definition, cut, growl or bite.

I've only demo'd the TH500 briefly and it does seem to offer a very complex midrange (a very nice, very good midrange). So maybe that head is a good match for the GS112. But I would honestly move past the GS112 to the DB112 or something else personally.
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Nice! Did you paint the grills black, did the original owner, or did the Series I have black grills? I gotta say I like the black grills better than the silver ones.
I painted them. It's the Krylon hammered finish. I prefer it greatly over the original silver grills.
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The cab would be $540 with a standard 15% off coupon, which wouldn't be too bad I guess. I would probably pair it up with a DB112NT ($492 w/ discount). Is there are reason to have two DB112s with 2 horns?

Also, there's an Aguilar GS112 for sale in the TB classified. What's the major difference between the DB112 and the GS112? There doesn't appear to be a lot of love for the GS112.
GS is scooped as has been said. I play a "P" also and prefer the mids to be somewhat boosted. Another problem I've heard from multiple reviews is that lows tend to "fart" out with the GS. The DB's are a perfect voicing for a "P". Most agree that, if your buying a pair, to have one be the NT. No need for two tweeters. That pairing gives the same overall experience as the DB212 - Two 12" speakers and one tweeter.
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