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02-13-2011, 10:13 AM
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Please give me the pros and cons of this rig for in-home, or potentially small gigs:
Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0
Bergantino AE212
EBMM Stingray 5 Classic
Describe the total experience (weaknesses / strengths). Good and bad! Who would benefit from this combination? | 
02-13-2011, 10:47 AM
|  | amateur tube amp hoarder Endorsing Artist: J Worrell Pickups / J Worrell Bass | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dayton OH | | | That is a solid rig. I'd also consider a Streamliner 900 as a possible alternative because it covers the fat tubby cleans and grit department. | 
02-13-2011, 10:48 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tallahassee, FL | | | Pros - Its a pro rig that will more than suffice for most gigs you will ever play.
Cons - Its crazy overkill for an "in-home rig". My shuttle 6.0 2x10 rig is WAY overkill for my at home rig. Perhaps another con is that you cant go below 4 ohms.
My everything rig is a pretty similar to yours: A Shuttle 12.0 and an Uber 2x12 and I want for nothing. For big outdoor stages Ill add another cab--usually a 4x10, but on those types of stages you really need monitors, side fills, or in-ears.
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02-13-2011, 11:03 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Geordie Delta, UK | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutz4Bass Please give me the pros and cons of this rig for in-home, or potentially small gigs:
Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0
Bergantino AE212
EBMM Stingray 5 Classic
Describe the total experience (weaknesses / strengths). Good and bad! Who would benefit from this combination? | Umm... by 'in-home', do you mean you live in an aircraft hangar?
If so, yep... that'll do it.
If not, save your money and get something smaller. A lot smaller. | 
02-13-2011, 11:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Zealand | | | My in-home rig and potentially small gigs is a Markbass head with a Bergantino HT112ER. The huge bottom end on the ER makes it viable for small gigs (sounds better than some single fifteens I have played) and, more importantly, its small size meets the approval of my better half. | 
02-13-2011, 12:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Oakland, California | | | It may be overkill in the watts dept but not so much in the cab dept. I would "maybe" go for a 1x12, like an Aguilar DB or GS 12-er. No faults with the bass choice though. Stingrays are solid and sound great for most styles of music. Though some may suggest a Sterling 5-er as they are a bit lighter (though not available as a classic) and they have the pickup wiring switch. That switch is very addictive!
My favorite living room amp is a 5 watt epiphone valve junior plugged into a 15 or 12. It isnt playing with a drummer loud, but its annoy the neighbors loud!
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02-13-2011, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim1 My in-home rig and potentially small gigs is a Markbass head with a Bergantino HT112ER. The huge bottom end on the ER makes it viable for small gigs (sounds better than some single fifteens I have played) and, more importantly, its small size meets the approval of my better half. | i was curious as to the difference between the bergantino AE series vs. the HT. Yes, I have been tempted to do the 1-12 thing as it's cheaper and smaller. I guess I'm thinking that I like a large bottom end...you know, a thumper...and maybe the HT series gets me there.
I was also curious about the Genz Benz NEOX 112T....and how it might compare or be different from the above mentioned Berg's.
Yes, I'm also torn (slightly) between stingray 5 and a sterling 5. I would also pull the trigger (i think) right now if I could find a new 20th anniversary Stingray 5 (not sure whether it's H or HH). I'm finding that the 2 band eq seems to be most desirable but that 20th anniversary sounds great on the ed friedland you tube video. very full...and seems to have quite the 'thump' as compared to other options I have considered. | 
02-13-2011, 06:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Zealand | | | The HT112ER is about 10 pounds lighter than the AE112 and has more bottom end, IMO. The AE112 is more prominent in the upper mids. They are both superb cabinets, but if I was only allowed one for a gig it would be the HT for the extra bottom. | 
02-13-2011, 11:16 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | i say if you want to practice on a medium size cab with an insanely high power amp, go ahead. you'll enjoy yourself and want to play more if the sound is good to you. but watch the power going into that cab. use your volume knob wisely.
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02-13-2011, 11:27 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutz4Bass Please give me the pros and cons of this rig for in-home, or potentially small gigs:
Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0
Bergantino AE212
EBMM Stingray 5 Classic
Describe the total experience (weaknesses / strengths). Good and bad! Who would benefit from this combination? | It's a perfect rig, except maybe the bass. I just played that rig (with Jazz basses) last night at a jam session with a bunch of friends, it it sounded great.
Ok, I'm back. First, the bass. Stingray 5s are great sounding basses ... if you like that one sound. I prefer multi-pickup basses for their versatility, so Jazz-type basses are my preference. As far as the rig, the Shuttle 9.0 and AE212 are made for each other. I use it as my practice rig in my office at home, and you can get a broad spectrum of great tones from it, even at low volumes. Last night, we were in a large room with a high ceiling in a residence. There were two guitars playing through 50- to 100-watt rigs (one with 2 twelves and one with 4 twelves). An acoustic guitarist was going direct to the board, which fed two 1,000-watt JBL PRX612 PA cabs. I had my rig volume at maybe 60 percent of its potential, and had no problem being heard.
I EQ the Shuttle 9.0 almost flat, with bass at 1 o'clock, mid at 1 o'clock (at about 700 hz), and treble at noon. Then I engaged the "bass boost." (I have been admonished that it's not really a bass boost by those in the know.) That way, I have a lot of tonal control at the bass, which has active EQ on board.
Bottom line, there's nothing not to like about the rig. If you like the sound of the Stingray, the amp and cab will make you like it more.
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02-14-2011, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga I have been admonished that it's not really a bass boost by those in the know. | correct....it's an extension. Having said that, I call it a "bass boost" all the time. 
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02-14-2011, 08:36 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | Get a stingray 5 HS and problem solved.
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02-14-2011, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by christw That is a solid rig. I'd also consider a Streamliner 900 as a possible alternative because it covers the fat tubby cleans and grit department. | The shuttle 9.0 won't get me there yet the Streamliner 900 will??? Why? | 
02-14-2011, 01:47 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | That's a mighty big rig for small gigs. That's a professional setup to handle most anything. See my signature.
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