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Old 01-03-2008, 03:09 PM
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Bart/Bart and Bart/Aggie Sound clips

Ok roscoeheads look past the sloppy playing for some comparison sound clips. My Ash Body, buckeye burl, skb5316 top came with the standard bart/bart setup. I decided to try the aggie pre and compare the two. It is just as what most people have said (thanks to Jome and Gard and others) that the bart is a little more fuzzy and more compressed. The aggie realy opens it up and the mid contol is alot more usable for this ash body bass. The sound clips are embarrasing but in the effort to help other Roscoeheads I humbly post these.

0- flat, with full blend
1- flat, with full blend
2- flat, full bridge (my fingers had glue on them, a bit sticky)
3- flat, full neck
4- flat, with full blend

I must say I like the aggie better for this setup. Flat is not the ideal sound for slap, but if I cut the mid and boost the treble and bass this sounds great. I really like the slap tone better and the fingerstyle in both the bridge or full blend. I like the tone of the bart better for bridge pickup alone.

http://www.vsbass.com/cory/

This is TBer Vic website so he may not keep them up very long so if you want them, you may want to copy them.
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Old 01-03-2008, 04:46 PM
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Nice A/B reference for the Aggie/Bart pre.

It would be nice to build a library of all of the various combos for Roscoe's.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:13 PM
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I kept waiting to hear a duck quack or something in those spaces after the clips, would have been priceless

But really, awesome thread! I've always wanted to hear the difference the Aggie pre makes from the Bart pre, all things being equal. I'd love to hear the new Audere pres too. Very cool--thank you. Now all we need is some place to hear the difference between Barts and Nordstrands. I would if I could
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:25 PM
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Again, sorry for the poor quality. I have just been playing a little over a year from a ten year layoff. I attribute the sloppyness to playing un-amplified the majority of the last year. Amplified I can hear my flaws and know where I need work.

For what I was wanting the aggie is awesome. It has a great slap tone that is not really apparent in the clip since I just recorded flat for reference. The output of the bart was a little hotter, however I did not check the gain control when we pulled it out. The nordies with the agggie would be a slap monster.

The only issue with the install was the volume shaft was larger then the bart. I had it prewired from Roscoe BTW. So the volume hole has to be routed out a bit and the knob wouldn't fit. I think I am going to bore it out a bit. Gard said this was probably just an anomaly. This happen to anyone else?
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:34 PM
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Ah I was just kidding , everything sounded good. It showed the differences between the pres perfectly. Nice sounding bass either way
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:51 PM
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I used to have a couple Roscoes and I sold both because there were just some things about the tone I couldn't live with. I always knew a big part of my problem was the fact that I chose the spanish cedar and now know I should have chosen ash. Had they been ash bodies with Aggie preamps, I think I'd still own at least one of them. Oh well... live and learn.

I was really surprised at how effectively the Aggie improved the tone, tho the diff is not like night/day if you really nit pick it.

I tried the Demeter in my LG 3005, and while it did "uncloak" the high end, at least for me, it also gave it almost a nasal quality and I lost some of the low end richness as well. That preamp couldn't come back out fast enough for me.
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Great thread, thank you.

It also shows that if swapping preamp makes a real difference, it is not nevertheless a revolution.


Sometime good to know before spending some 150 to 200 bucks.


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