Bart Pre in Roscoes Different from NTMB?

LifeIsBass · #1 05-14-2008, 01:08 PM

You'll all have to excuse my ignorance. I'm somewhat new to the whole Roscoe thing. I've got a used SKB 5'er headed my way with Bart PUs and a Demeter pre. I'm just wondering what I'll do if I don't like the Demeter.

Isn't the Bart pre in Roscoes customized specifically for Roscoes? If I were to get an off the shelf NTMB, how would it be different? Different EQ points?

Thanks for any help.

Gard · #2 05-14-2008, 02:12 PM

The Bart we use in our bass is not any different than a stock NTMB, other than the way we switch the mid frequencies (push/pull mid pot, not a switch).

CrashClint · #3 05-14-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeIsBass

I've got a used SKB 5'er headed my way with Bart PUs and a Demeter pre. I'm just wondering what I'll do if I don't like the Demeter.

If you do not like the Demeter preamp, you will sell it to me and buy a Bartolini.

Basso Gruvitas · #4 05-14-2008, 04:02 PM

Just one word........

"Audere"

LifeIsBass · #5 05-14-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Basso Gruvitas

Just one word........

"Audere"

Had a J-bass with an Audere in it. The Audere (at least in that bass) really just wasn't my cup 'o tea. For my tastes, it was actually too transparent. I can understand why a lot of people would like that, though. Who knows, I might like one in a Roscoe. I'd love to hear one someday.

I'm really hoping that I'll like the Demeter. If not, I'm nearly positive I'll put a Bart in there. In my experience, Bart electronics really suit my tastes.

Basso Gruvitas · #6 05-14-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeIsBass

Had a J-bass with an Audere in it. The Audere (at least in that bass) really just wasn't my cup 'o tea. For my tastes, it was actually too transparent. I can understand why a lot of people would like that, though. Who knows, I might like one in a Roscoe. I'd love to hear one someday.

I'm really hoping that I'll like the Demeter. If not, I'm nearly positive I'll put a Bart in there. In my experience, Bart electronics really suit my tastes.

Well if the Audere is too transparent for you, the Demeter will be like fingernails down a chalkboard to you. The Demeter is the Tops in Transparent.
Go with the Bart preamp....

Halftooth · #7 05-15-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Basso Gruvitas

Well if the Audere is too transparent for you, the Demeter will be like fingernails down a chalkboard to you. The Demeter is the Tops in Transparent.
Go with the Bart preamp....

Couldn't agree more...the Demeter is the epitome of transparency, IMO, much more transparent than the Audere.

I actually find that the Audere is a decent match with the stock Barts...sort of in between what the Bart &Aggie and the Demeter as far as the tonal transparency thing goes.

I'm not all that wild about the Audere pre in most other basses, but for some reason it works well with Roscoe and it sure gives you a ton of tones.

tdmorley · #8 05-16-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Halftooth

I actually find that the Audere is a decent match with the stock Barts...sort of in between what the Bart &Aggie and the Demeter as far as the tonal transparency thing goes.

I've never heard it in a Roscoe, but the Glockenklang is
incredibly transparent

LifeIsBass · #9 05-17-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashClint

If you do not like the Demeter preamp, you will sell it to me and buy a Bartolini.

Sorry, I'm keeping the Demeter!

I just received my first Roscoe today! I've gassed for Roscoes for a long time and now "have finally seen the light"! This bass has everything I was looking for. Great modern tone. The notes are so tight and defined! The low B is awesome! Best I've ever played. I didn't think a B string could get better than my Modulus, but this one is. It feels slightly tighter and the notes are more defined. Honestly, in the past I've never used the low B on my 5 'ers much but I'm sure that's going to change now. This bass sounds wonderful for soloing and chording. Cool modern slap tone too. The Demeter really allows for a huge amount of tonal variation. It's amazing what happens when you start turning those knobs.

I know, no pics, no bass so here it is:

LightGroove · #10 05-18-2008, 04:49 AM

Hey now,

Congrats on the bass..I had a Demter in a LG3000 I owned.. I actually enjoyed the Demeter a lot. I'm not a tone buff so I'm probably not one to discuss variations and transparency. The definition note-by note was remarkable. I used it at church and got wonderful feedback. I'm sure you'll notice the highs are slightly "muted" ..not sure if this is a Demter or Bart thing. I actually liked them muted over the real high sizzly stuff. The lows go a loooooooong way. The sound man had me cut back the lows almost every Sunday because they were killing everything else

..I will say I wasn't a big fan of the mid range however. I could never get it quite dialed in to my liking and just set it flat and adjusted accordingly on my head.I found a slight bump of the lows and 3/4 on the highs with a flat mid really shined. And the growl...MMMM the growl...