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06-27-2010, 12:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | | Bartolini Gain Adjustment.. Hey fellow heads...
Just curious where you all have the gain adjustments set on your basses.
I leave mine around 1 oclock but finding it may be a tad too much at times. Anyone have a preference or find a "sweet spot"
Thanks
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06-27-2010, 12:52 PM
| | | | I have the gain on my 5 string headless set at about 12:30-12:45. I would guess that this mid point setting is just in the design of the preamp.
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06-27-2010, 02:26 PM
|  | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | I'd like to leave it full up, as IMO, it sounds best that way, but they're so much more powerful than my other basses with the gain up, it takes a dramatic change of my amps settings when I swap to them, even with the active pad on.
So I have it set about half up. | 
06-27-2010, 02:56 PM
|  | Providing the Lowend for the High One | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bonaire, GA (near Macon) | | | Yep. I typically ended up setting all that I've owned around 1/2.
Personally, I'd rather err on slightly too little gain than too much gain. | 
06-27-2010, 03:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | | So would 1/2 way be considered 12 oclock or so?
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06-27-2010, 03:18 PM
|  | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by LightGroove So would 1/2 way be considered 12 oclock or so? | Each bass is different, the minipot might not be installed in the same angle on yours, as it is in mine, its not the same between my LG & SKB.
Just pop the cover and see, if you need to know. | 
06-27-2010, 08:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rochester N.Y. | | | I've been wondering about this subject as well.....
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06-28-2010, 08:31 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle | | | Have both of mine at 12:00, never thought to monkey with it, hmmmmm
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06-28-2010, 10:40 AM
|  | Cogito Ergo Idiot | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstrike Each bass is different, the minipot might not be installed in the same angle on yours, as it is in mine, its not the same between my LG & SKB.
Just pop the cover and see, if you need to know. | Agreed, so I think the "o'clock" measurement can be a bit misleading. Eyeball it from 'zero' to 'ten' by flipping the screwdriver from the 'min' to 'max' setting. I have both of mine as close to 'six' (out of ten) as possible. | 
06-28-2010, 10:43 AM
|  | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by VroomVroom Agreed, so I think the "o'clock" measurement can be a bit misleading. Eyeball it from 'zero' to 'ten' by flipping the screwdriver from the 'min' to 'max' setting. I have both of mine as close to 'six' (out of ten) as possible. | Indeed that's why I avoided the "o'clock's" too. | 
06-28-2010, 10:48 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by VroomVroom Agreed, so I think the "o'clock" measurement can be a bit misleading. Eyeball it from 'zero' to 'ten' by flipping the screwdriver from the 'min' to 'max' setting. I have both of mine as close to 'six' (out of ten) as possible. | This is precisely how Keith sets them when doing the final setup on the bass. 
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06-28-2010, 05:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | | Popped the back cover off and I can see where there may be some misunderstanding as far o clock. I turned the knob all the way left as far as it would go and tweaked back. I set mine straight up and down so in essence it looks like 12:30. I'll give it a test drive this Thurs. with a new little head "light" which is on order.
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06-28-2010, 06:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston | | | So is the 12/12:30 setting considered "flat". I don't fully understand the function of this adjustment. Thank for any advice!
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06-29-2010, 12:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | | I think this is purely a "gain" and affects volume/distortion points similar to the gain on an amp. More gain = hotter signal but eventually becomes too hot and can clip or distort the signal...The flat/boost/cut comes into play moreso with the knobs and the respective adjustments youve made.
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06-29-2010, 01:16 PM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by LightGroove I think this is purely a "gain" and affects volume/distortion points similar to the gain on an amp. More gain = hotter signal but eventually becomes too hot and can clip or distort the signal...The flat/boost/cut comes into play moreso with the knobs and the respective adjustments youve made. | Yup, there is no "flat", just how much output do you need. It helps deal with amps or recording desks that have very sensitive input levels or matching output levels of different basses going into the same amp/recording desk. 
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06-29-2010, 02:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston | | | Thanks guys!
I've been recording direct to Apple Logic through an Apogee Duet and getting some over boost so I think I'll back off on the gain!
Thanks for the tips!
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06-29-2010, 04:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | Yep Jet...as others have said (and why I posted) better to error on the low side of things. I get serious clipping any time I make a moderate boost (mids or lows) . Actually did a test run at the current 12:30 setting and found that to clip a bit with marginal boost. Granted Im running direct into a Roland br600 which I know nothing about  ..So looks like I'll be backing off and perhaps making my tone adjustments on the head itself.
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06-29-2010, 04:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston | | | Thanks Lightgroove!
That really helps a lot! I was getting some clipping during recording when all my levels seemed to be okay.
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07-07-2010, 04:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New England | | | I was thinking about adjusting mine for about 3 weeks now and a funny thing happened. There was no adjustment. As it turns out, when I got the back cover off, to my surprise the preamp slapped me in the face with "Aguilar". The story behind this bass gets even more interesting but for this topic it's posted on 2 websites one says Bart preamp and pickups, the other says Aguilar preamp with Bart pickups. I had to rethink my approach to using the controls, though it never sounded bad I found some other tone tricks. Everyday I'm surprised by something new.
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07-07-2010, 01:40 PM
|  | Giver of GAS Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveProulx I was thinking about adjusting mine for about 3 weeks now and a funny thing happened. There was no adjustment. As it turns out, when I got the back cover off, to my surprise the preamp slapped me in the face with "Aguilar". The story behind this bass gets even more interesting but for this topic it's posted on 2 websites one says Bart preamp and pickups, the other says Aguilar preamp with Bart pickups. I had to rethink my approach to using the controls, though it never sounded bad I found some other tone tricks. Everyday I'm surprised by something new. | Hah! I read your post and, of course, assumed that I had messed up on the details. But no, my site says Aggie!! Yeah!!    | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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