Demeter Pre Schematic

[JOME77]

Hey Bruce!
Yeah, according to Jerry the Demeter really really worked well with that ash bass. You scored a nice Roscoe on that deal. I really love the grain on the solid ash body.

I guess that it had a been a couple of years since I heard a Roscoe with the Demeter pre and it was just re-validated in my mind as to just how good the Demeter sounds in a Roscoe.
I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of mid and bass control the Demeter has. I didn't remember it having that much boost and cut in those area's.
Over time I almost bought into the notion that the Audere was similar sounding to the Demeter but after an A/B comparison of the Roscoe w/Audere & the Roscoe w/Demeter, they aren't even close in sound.

I'm GAS'ing to see how the Tyler Demeter (that's what I ordered but it has Roscoe written on the back of the PCB) sounds with the Bart CB p/u's. I think I'm going to put it in tonight and give it a demo tomorrow morning at church.

[Baird6869]

Am I nuts or is the Demeter pre with Barts THE best sounding combo in a Roscoe?

I prefer this in both of my Roscoes (SKB 5 and 6) over anything from Nordstrand, Audere, etc.

I wouldn't switch out the Demeter pres for anything.

Am I the only one that thinks this?

[bkirk]

Thanks Joe! It's been great having this bass; I feel fortunate every time I get it out to play. You're right, the grain on it is one-of-a-kind. Being solid ash, it seems a little blue collar compared to a lot of snappy Roscoes but I really dig that about it. Plus the sound is all I could want!

It has the original Roscoe/Bart p/u's so I don't really know what a difference the CBs could bring to it but I am curious. I don't really have a lot of experience with the Audere (just a few test drives at the bass shop) but I'm really happy with what I have in a preamp. (If it ain't broke..., right?) I will have to say, I really like the Bart/Bart combination in my fretless. I know others, like Jerry, have voiced a similar opinion.

Let us know what you think of the new preamp!
Bruce

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by bkirk

Thanks Joe! It's been great having this bass; I feel fortunate every time I get it out to play. You're right, the grain on it is one-of-a-kind. Being solid ash, it seems a little blue collar compared to a lot of snappy Roscoes but I really dig that about it. Plus the sound is all I could want!

It has the original Roscoe/Bart p/u's so I don't really know what a difference the CBs could bring to it but I am curious. I don't really have a lot of experience with the Audere (just a few test drives at the bass shop) but I'm really happy with what I have in a preamp. (If it ain't broke..., right?) I will have to say, I really like the Bart/Bart combination in my fretless. I know others, like Jerry, have voiced a similar opinion.

Let us know what you think of the new preamp!
Bruce

Bruce,
The Bart CB's have a more open sounding tone. If you feel that the bass sounds nice and smooth with the Roscoe Barts, I'd stay with them. Most feel that the Roscoe Barts are more compressed sounding (and sometimes a bit more nasual sounding).
I installed the new Demeter in my Roscoe. Check out my comments in this thread:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showth...=1#post7315221

Originally Posted by Baird6869

Am I nuts or is the Demeter pre with Barts THE best sounding combo in a Roscoe?

I prefer this in both of my Roscoes (SKB 5 and 6) over anything from Nordstrand, Audere, etc.

I wouldn't switch out the Demeter pres for anything.

Am I the only one that thinks this?

No, you're not nuts! I agree with you!

Of course I guess that we might both be nuts!

[JOME77]

I installed another new Roscoe/Demeter in a local guys Roscoe. That's the 3rd in 2 months.
This Roscoe had the Aggie/Roscoe Bart combo w/maple fb, maple top & Spanish cedar body.
The guy called me 2 times last night and 2 times today just raving about the slap tone and just the overall sweetness of the pre amp.

You guys that aren't totally content with the slap tone or the somewhat compressed sound of your Roscoe's, the Demeter is the ticket!

[T. Brookins]

Would anyone have anything more specific than what is in post #12 for the Demeter beqp-1? Someone gave me the pre completely unwired.

Lotsa wires.

Thanks!

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by T. Brookins

Would anyone have anything more specific than what is in post #12 for the Demeter beqp-1? Someone gave me the pre completely unwired.

Lotsa wires.

Thanks!

You'll probably have to get that info from James Demeter. Since it comes prewired they don't provide much documention with the preamp.

[JOME77]

Bump to the top ........


Got a new Demeter on-board preamp yesterday.

Now, I've got to decide which Roscoe to install it in ............. ?

[JoelFT]

Originally Posted by JOME77

Bump to the top ........


Got a new Demeter on-board preamp yesterday.

Now, I've got to decide which Roscoe to install it in ............. ?

Cool. I just ordered a Pope to replace the Aggie in your old SKB.

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by JoelFT

Cool. I just ordered a Pope to replace the Aggie in your old SKB.

Good move Joel! That's probably next on my list for Mahoganut.

Awesome preamp!

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by JOME77

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Got a new Demeter on-board preamp yesterday.

Now, I've got to decide which Roscoe to install it in ............. ?

Well the Demeter went into a newly acquired fretted 3006 with an ash body, maple top and maple finger board.
As soon as I plugged it up I was reminded of why so many Roscoe owners with Roscoe's with ash bodies loved the Demeter preamp option!
The Demeter just totally smooths out the aggressive tone of ash. It retains the positive sound characteristics of ash but smooths out the somewhat harsh upper mid's. It also really opens up the tone of the Roscoe Bart's.
To my ears, a really huge improvement from the Aggie OBP-3 that was factory installed in the bass.
I'll post some sound clips of the bass soon on the Roscoe sound clip thread.

[JOME77]

I recorded some sound clips of the ash/maple Roscoe SKB-3006 with the Demeter preamp. All of the bass parts on the sound clip were played using the Roscoe SKB-3006 with the Demeter preamp.

I didn't spend any time at all fine tuning sounds and was quickly reminded how plug and play this preamp is. I don't think that you can get a bad sound out of it.
I will say though that the preamp seems capable of a bit more boost in the bass and mid's than I remember. I guess that it could be due to being installed in a Roscoe with an ash body (all the others had Spanish Cedar).

At any rate, here's the clip of the Demeter in an ash/maple Roscoe 3006:

https://soundcloud.com/jome77/polo-man

Here's a clip of the Demeter in my walnut/Mahogany Roscoe signature 3006:

https://soundcloud.com/jome77/polo-man-mdp

[J2Kbass]

Cool Joe! You can definitely hear a difference between that bass and your other versions of polo man. I also see what you mean when you have described how the highs sound with the demeter. Good Stuff!

[JOME77]

I couldn't stand it. After hearing the Demeter in the ash/maple Roscoe I ordered another one for Mahoganut.
As much as I love the sound of that bass I'm thinking that the Demeter would open up the tone a bit and smooth out the overall tone.

Worse case, if I'm wrong I can just put the Bart 3-band back in.

[LightGroove]

Dibs on the Demeter if it doesn't work

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by LightGroove

Dibs on the Demeter if it doesn't work

I'll definitely keep you in mind LG. Hopefully the Demeter will work out in one of my Roscoe's though.

[JOME77]

The Demeter is definitely staying in mahoganut!

I'm totally loving the sound of it in the bass!