Extension Cab dilemma

[Big Mother]

Hey!
I am running an Eden Metro and want to get an extension cab for larger/louder situations. Think it would be good to get another Eden cab, I like them, matching, etc.
Leaning hard toward a D212XLT, I am a finger style player and like a 12's meat & potato's.
Also temped by the D210XST due to size and reported tight lows it can kick out.

Any of you running a 2-10/2-12 combo?

Any comments on an XLT/XST mix?

For what its worth, I'd rather sound closer to J Hellborg than V Wooten.

As always, Thanks,

BM

[VroomVroom]

FWIW, I'm not a fan of mixing driver sizes...particularly 10's and 12's. I find that they tend to duke it out sonically and most of "my" tone ends up being canceled out. Strictly IMO/IME...there are others who run this mix and love the sound.

Basically, I buy into the logic that multiple cabs should be identical, which includes the XST/XLT cab design. Same speaker size and air movement just makes it easier to get your sound....maybe think of it as removing a big variable, especially in difficult rooms where EQ can be a challenge.

One word can describe the D212XLT: MASSIVE. For many years my main cabinet was a 210XLT. The 212 is amazing, but try as I might (and I have), I've never been able to fall in love with 12's.

What cabinet are you currently using?

[Big Mother]

Right now I pair it up with an old Trace 1153 (itty bitty 15").
It is ok, but something about it is just not sitting well with me lately.
Not real focused or reactive, sounds a little choked and tired (it is 12 years old).

I really like the Metro on its own, big, full bodied, focused, and I can get a little nasty with the SS channel.

BM

[Big Mother]

Ya know, in rereading your post and my last post, the obvious conclusion would be, get a D210XLT.

If I like the Metro on its own, it basically has a D210XLT in it........Duh........

BM

[VroomVroom]

Ha. And in rereading both of our posts, I realize that I (once again!) am an idiot, and missed the whole 'Metro' thing. Can you tell it's been a few years since I've talked Eden?

When I ran both of my 210XLT's together, the sound was amazing...and HUGE. Honestly, on a few gigs it was actually a bit overkill, and I ended up dialing back some lows to compensate a bit. Unless you're playing a huge outdoor gig without reinforcement, I'll suggest that a D210XLT sitting below your Metro will definitely give you the horsepower you're after, while maintaining the same tone shape that you already enjoy. Good luck!

[Gard]

Hmm....well, I'm a fan of the XST cabs myself, had teh 410XLT for several years and loved it to death.

I've heard the XST + XLT combo, and it worked, they complimented each others strengths - the strong low mids of the XLT gave punch the XST didn't quite have naturally, and the depth and definition of the XST gave fundamental and clarity the XLT didn't quite have naturally.

[CrashClint]

I would go with a UL210, it has clarity, punch and depth whick should sound good with the Metro.

[Bassmanbob]

Very funny. I too have been thinking adding something to my Metro. I have the 115-XLT I put under my Metro, but the tone I get is either too boomy without punch and definition. Then no matter how I change settings and take a little out of the boom, then it gets a bit too thin with not enough bottom end.

I am looking for a meaty colon-loosening punch with some definition. I'm not a soloist, but I do through in some lines every once in a while that would be nice to have the audience hear.

I dont' care about weight so I'd consider the 210-XLT, 210-SXT, 410-XLT or other Eden extension cabs.

Any further throughts for a guy playing small clubs and small outdoor venues?

Thanks

[lowfreqman]

I have a Metro with a 210 XLT extension. It adds a little extra meaty low end to the Metro's sound (due to coupliing) without getting too boomy. And, it sounds excellent with my fretless Roscoe (diamondwood board with Bart/Bart electronics).

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by Bassmanbob

I am looking for a meaty colon-loosening punch with some definition.

What's up Bob?

I don't think that I've ever heard it put quite like that!
If you ever do stumble on that rig, I certainly hope that you set your amp up close to the bathroom!

[CrashClint]

Originally Posted by Bassmanbob;

I am looking for a meaty colon-loosening punch with some definition. I'm not a soloist, but I do through in some lines every once in a while that would be nice to have the audience hear.

Originally Posted by JOME77

What's up Bob?

I don't think that I've ever heard it put quite like that!
If you ever do stumble on that rig, I certainly hope that you set your amp up close to the bathroom!

Stir-fry has the same effect on me.

[Big Mother]

So I went a different direction............
Kept the Eden Metro, like the way it sounds.

Got a wild hair and just bought a whole new rig, LOVE IT!

My mini rig of boom.



BM

[Bassmanbob]

And it asthetically matches your bass! How nice! Who cares the way it sounds? Just kidding. Glad you like it.

In what way does it differ from the Metro sound you had?

[Big Mother]

More aggressive and punchy in the mid/low mids, seems tighter. The DB750 just has a feeling of unbridled power, never experienced that before. The little DB112's are voiced pretty forward, more focused and louder than I expected.

Take nothing away from the Metro, just a different flavor.

It is kinda cool that it matches up visually with my lovely Roscoe too.


SM

[Bassmanbob]

Well I got pretty much what I wanted too. I decided to purchase the XLT-410 that was available here on TB. I was considering the smaller XST-210, but my current car can handle the 410 with the Metro in the trunk. The thing is though, if I want to downsize the car (5 year old Nissan Murano), I'll either have to get a 210 to continue with the Metro or get a new amp to take the 410 by itself.

For now, I'm hoping the Metro and the XLT-410 will give me that colon-loosening punch with definition I'm looking for. Note to self: Take Imodium AD to each gig.

[Big Mother]

Originally Posted by Bassmanbob

Note to self: Take Imodium AD to each gig.

HAHAHA!!

Better safe than sorry

BM

[Gard]

Originally Posted by Big Mother

HAHAHA!!

Better safe than sorry

BM

...with the initials "BM", I'd guess you keep some Immodium on hand at all times...

[Big Mother]

and plastic underpants...

One can never be too careful; loud rig, thundering Roscoe B string, accidents happen.
(hope it happens to the singer and not me)

BM

[Bassmanbob]

I got the XLT-410 and added it to the Metro.

Wow. I think I got that colon- loosening punch with definition I was craving. Looking forward to gigging with it.

[Big Mother]

Very cool, I bet it does the trick. Let us know how it gigs!

BM