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10-17-2011, 08:32 AM
|  | Well, Ahoy Paloi | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA | | | NFL Week 6 Results thus far...
Hey Fellas,
Interesting day yesterday in the NFL, eh? I was happy to see the Patriots beat Dallas (barely). Ray, are we still friends, buddy???? 
If I were you Ray, I would be pi$sed about the lame play calling Dallas made in the last 2 minutes. Three straight running plays then they punt the ball back to Brady with 2 minutes left? I think Garrett was afraid Romo would turn the ball over if they tried to throw for a fist down. Gotta say, a great deal of talent on that team, but the ownership and coaching leave a lot to be desired.
Gard, feel for you too. Seeing Payton get his leg broken / torn ACL and continue to coach from the booth in a losing effort- wow. The guy is tough for sure.
Also the Detroit / SF ending was fun to watch, a little fired up, Jim?
Now, if the Jets lose tonight I will be at peace. |
10-17-2011, 09:30 AM
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...my game...guh...team looked flat, no "fire", wonder if the injury to Payton had an effect, or if it was just a combination of them being a bit tired from the 3 game road trip combined with the Yucs being pretty ticked off after they got spanked the week before. Watching the game, I put the loss squarely on the Saints, they just did not play up to their standards - for whatever reason.
I will, however, point out that if the ball touches the ground before the receiver has control of it, it IS incomplete. Even if the ref reviewing it is either a) blinder than a bat, or b) on the take (how much extra was in HIS pay envelope?  ). Oh, and on Brees' 2nd INT, hell man, if I knew that you could MUG the receiver like that, then catch the ball after shoving him out of bounds before the ball arrives, and that wasn't pass interference, I'd get a job as an NFL DB!  However, the missed calls did not cost the Saints the game - the SAINTS lost the game by themselves. You play well enough, you can beat missed/bad/incredibly obviously wrong calls. We'll get it back in the rematch, with interest - Yucs won't win the NFC-S.
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10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gard  Good win for the Pats, but the Cowboys exposed their defense a bit. Hoodie needs to get that rectified... | I don't know what they think they're doing.  Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard ...my game...guh...team looked flat, no "fire", wonder if the injury to Payton had an effect, or if it was just a combination of them being a bit tired from the 3 game road trip combined with the Yucs being pretty ticked off after they got spanked the week before. Watching the game, I put the loss squarely on the Saints, they just did not play up to their standards - for whatever reason. | Honestly, they didn't look good before Payton's injury, if it had any effect, it would have been IMO a "final nail in the coffin" deal.
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10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkstrike I don't know what they think they're doing. | Playing bad defense. I recognize it quite readily, my team has been doing that essentially all season as well. Quote: |
Honestly, they didn't look good before Payton's injury, if it had any effect, it would have been IMO a "final nail in the coffin" deal.
| Agreed, they just didn't look "right", but the wind appeared to go out of the sails completely soon after that.
Frustrating to watch them play so badly and STILL almost pull out a win....sigh...
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10-17-2011, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gard Playing bad defense. I recognize it quite readily, my team has been doing that essentially all season as well. | Brady's protection is a disaster too, last season, he could sit in the pocket and have a cup of coffee before throwing the ball, the other week, I saw him take more sacks than every Pats game I've seen beforehand..... combined. Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard Agreed, they just didn't look "right", but the wind appeared to go out of the sails completely soon after that.
Frustrating to watch them play so badly and STILL almost pull out a win....sigh... | Every time they got the ball, I was all "right, Brees is about to do his thang now!" It never got going though, I can't understand how they kept so close when it seemed that not one of 'em wanted to be there.
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10-17-2011, 10:51 AM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | What about the Bears though, who saw that coming?
I expected a win, but a bare one after Cutler took about 20 sacks....
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10-17-2011, 12:55 PM
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General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | [quote=Darkstrike;11628451]Brady's protection is a disaster too, last season, he could sit in the pocket and have a cup of coffee before throwing the ball, the other week, I saw him take more sacks than every Pats game I've seen beforehand..... combined.
It was frustrating, but keep in mind that - despite my distain of the team - the front 7 in Dallas is pretty stout, and is VERY good at putting pressure on the QB. Quote: |
time they got the ball, I was all "right, Brees is about to do his thang now!" It never got going though, I can't understand how they kept so close when it seemed that not one of 'em wanted to be there.
| It was so frustrating to see a team with so much obvious talent just not seeming to care enough to do anything with it...if they'd just put an effort forth, they'd have won. If they'd played FOOTBALL the way they are really capable of, they'd have BURIED the Bucs...instead they sleep walked through a really bad loss....sigh...hopefully, this will get them angry now.
Sean Payton had the surgery to repair his knee this morning, from all reports, it went very well, but he will be off it completely for at least 8 weeks, and his full recovery is not expected for at least 6 months. What a weird thing that was...
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10-17-2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gard It was frustrating, but keep in mind that - despite my distain of the team - the front 7 in Dallas is pretty stout, and is VERY good at putting pressure on the QB. | Definitely, Dallas are a tough team, a lot more than their results this season would have you believe. It's weird, the team preform, or Romo preforms, never both at the same time... Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard It was so frustrating to see a team with so much obvious talent just not seeming to care enough to do anything with it...if they'd just put an effort forth, they'd have won. If they'd played FOOTBALL the way they are really capable of, they'd have BURIED the Bucs...instead they sleep walked through a really bad loss....sigh...hopefully, this will get them angry now. | Exactly, I don't think anyone will deny that the Saints can go with any team today, when they want to, seems to happen to the Steelers too. Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard Sean Payton had the surgery to repair his knee this morning, from all reports, it went very well, but he will be off it completely for at least 8 weeks, and his full recovery is not expected for at least 6 months. What a weird thing that was... | Good to hear it went well.
Completely odd though, didn't look bad at all, just enough to put him off balance.
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10-17-2011, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkstrike Definitely, Dallas are a tough team, a lot more than their results this season would have you believe. It's weird, the team preform, or Romo preforms, never both at the same time... | I think frankly that it is a combination of ownership/management (i.e. Jerry Jones) meddling, coaching incompetence, and just general not all that darn good QB play that does them in. Their defensive front 7 is actually fairly strong, and their secondary isn't awful...so it's the offense that is...well....offensive... 
Gotta fix it from the top, and until JJ stops meddling and inserting himself into everything, they will never make it over that last hurdle. Instead of a team that does whatever it can to win, they're a team that does whatever JJ wants. Quote: |
Exactly, I don't think anyone will deny that the Saints can go with any team today, when they want to, seems to happen to the Steelers too.
| Don't make me feel any better - they should ALWAYS want to play to their best ability. They don't, frustrating to say the least. Quote:
Good to hear it went well.
Completely odd though, didn't look bad at all, just enough to put him off balance.
| I was watching at a local pub/sports bar that I frequent, very loud and the sound was off, so I had no idea until my sister texted me with the news. I thought he'd taken a bit of a bump and they had him sitting just because he'd sprained or strained something. When I heard the extent of the injury, I was kind of stunned - it really didn't look that bad! 
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10-17-2011, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gard I think frankly that it is a combination of ownership/management (i.e. Jerry Jones) meddling, coaching incompetence, and just general not all that darn good QB play that does them in. Their defensive front 7 is actually fairly strong, and their secondary isn't awful...so it's the offense that is...well....offensive...
Gotta fix it from the top, and until JJ stops meddling and inserting himself into everything, they will never make it over that last hurdle. Instead of a team that does whatever it can to win, they're a team that does whatever JJ wants. | Heh, happens way too much in big business sports. Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard Don't make me feel any better - they should ALWAYS want to play to their best ability. They don't, frustrating to say the least. | Every team should, for sure. Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard I was watching at a local pub/sports bar that I frequent, very loud and the sound was off, so I had no idea until my sister texted me with the news. I thought he'd taken a bit of a bump and they had him sitting just because he'd sprained or strained something. When I heard the extent of the injury, I was kind of stunned - it really didn't look that bad! | Yeah, even the commentators made light of it at first. I assumed why they were checking him over so much was some standard procedure.
Then they were talking about a Saint with a broken leg, and I couldn't figure out for ages who it was, as there was no serious tackles or bumps.
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10-17-2011, 05:51 PM
| | Well, Ahoy Paloi | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA | | | Beware the Packers .... (again!).
Damn, Aaron Rogers is the Man. I can't imagine what went through his mind all those years on the bench watching Farve suck week after week. Kudos for Rogers keeping it classy on that point and not clearing the air after last year's SB win. I respect the kid a lot and the team ain't too shabby. The best team in the NFC, if not the NFL is in Green Bay in my estimation. |
10-17-2011, 06:06 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | Rodgers is brilliant, between him and Clay Matthews on defense(not to make light of the rest of the team), they're an intimidating, and excellent team on both sides of the coin.
Don't generally like Greenbay fans though.
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10-18-2011, 06:13 AM
| | Well, Ahoy Paloi | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA | | | Wow, Miami Dolphins - where is that high school actually located?
They are awful and I don't blame QB Moore. Even my wife pointed out that the Dolphin players looked smaller in size than the Jets; this was obvious on defense. They had zero pass rush and made Sanchez look "decent". And...., when is Revis going to get flagged for def. pass interference??? He commits the penalty on almost every play- watch him grab the receiver's shirt, arm, etc... Jets fans may be happy about the win, but they still looked terrible, especially in the first 3 quarters. We'll see how they do against San Diego next week- a much better opponent. |
10-18-2011, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bipslapper Hey Fellas,
Interesting day yesterday in the NFL, eh? I was happy to see the Patriots beat Dallas (barely). Ray, are we still friends, buddy???? | We're more than friends man! We're brothers! Now get outta my room while I cry. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bipslapper If I were you Ray, I would be pi$sed about the lame play calling Dallas made in the last 2 minutes. Three straight running plays then they punt the ball back to Brady with 2 minutes left? I think Garrett was afraid Romo would turn the ball over if they tried to throw for a fist down. Gotta say, a great deal of talent on that team, but the ownership and coaching leave a lot to be desired. | Players did ok. This time the calls sucked.  Quote:
Originally Posted by Bipslapper Gard, feel for you too. Seeing Payton get his leg broken / torn ACL and continue to coach from the booth in a losing effort- wow. The guy is tough for sure. | Saw this on ESPN. Crazy! Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard Good win for the Pats, but the Cowboys exposed their defense a bit. Hoodie needs to get that rectified...
...my game...guh...team looked flat, no "fire", wonder if the injury to Payton had an effect, or if it was just a combination of them being a bit tired from the 3 game road trip combined with the Yucs being pretty ticked off after they got spanked the week before. Watching the game, I put the loss squarely on the Saints, they just did not play up to their standards - for whatever reason.
I will, however, point out that if the ball touches the ground before the receiver has control of it, it IS incomplete. Even if the ref reviewing it is either a) blinder than a bat, or b) on the take (how much extra was in HIS pay envelope? ). Oh, and on Brees' 2nd INT, hell man, if I knew that you could MUG the receiver like that, then catch the ball after shoving him out of bounds before the ball arrives, and that wasn't pass interference, I'd get a job as an NFL DB! However, the missed calls did not cost the Saints the game - the SAINTS lost the game by themselves. You play well enough, you can beat missed/bad/incredibly obviously wrong calls. We'll get it back in the rematch, with interest - Yucs won't win the NFC-S. | NOLA quit after Payton got hurt. Sad to see.
God Bless, Ray
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10-18-2011, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gard Good win for the Pats, but the Cowboys exposed their defense a bit. Hoodie needs to get that rectified...
| I'm going to disagree with this. I think what we saw was a Pats "D" that is starting to come around. They've been my biggest concern all season, and they finally started to show some life this week. The Cowboys played them tough, and to my eyes, it seems like the D is improving. Either way, you're right - Hoodie needs to keep the heat on.
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10-18-2011, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pacman I'm going to disagree with this. I think what we saw was a Pats "D" that is starting to come around. They've been my biggest concern all season, and they finally started to show some life this week. The Cowboys played them tough, and to my eyes, it seems like the D is improving. Either way, you're right - Hoodie needs to keep the heat on. | Oh, I don't think they SUCK (we'll reserve that for the Saints right now...  ), but I am not convinced the Cowboys offense is all that good, and they were able to move the ball well against the Pats on Sunday. Too well for my taste, frankly (of course, my taste would be for the Cowboys to have zero points, yards, first downs, tackles, etc, ect, ect...  ). The Pats D is definitely improving, which is a good thing for them, and not so good for the rest of the AFC East. Now, can we get someone to do the same thing in NOLA - PLEASE?!?!
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10-18-2011, 12:48 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | I'm sorry I taped that Dolphins match for today.
How the Jets won by such a margin and still looked like crap, I can't understand...
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10-18-2011, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkstrike I'm sorry I taped that Dolphins match for today.
How the Jets won by such a margin and still looked like crap, I can't understand... | ...Miami is JUST that BAD.
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10-18-2011, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gard ...Miami is JUST that BAD. | Wish I could argue that point...
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10-18-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gard ...Miami is JUST that BAD. | Not JUST that BAD - Just that Bad and a bag of stale chips.
SportsTalk radio down here is "all in" on the "Suck for Luck" campaign. They're rippin' the coach and ownership and the players - especially Brandon Marshall (who has dropped a handful of TD passes so far this year). Most severe is the rip that the Dolphins will be 0-15 and win the last game to lose out on the opportunity to get the first draft choice - i.e. they'll screw that up too. "Suck for Luck" may gain them a very good QB, but it won't erase the dismal abilities of coaching/management.
Been down here 20 years but I'm still a Lions fan. Tough to watch that loss to the 49'ers, but it confirmed what I thought - the O-Line is porous and the D-Line is not what it should be. 10-6 would be a realistic ending. I'm not sure it would get them to the playoffs.
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