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Old 10-18-2008, 08:12 AM
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Thumbs down No Big deal But.....No respect from BP Magazine!

I know it's no big deal but I was a bit surprised, given the popularity and high quality of a Roscoe bass, that it didn't make BP magazines 20th anniversary "Boutique Basses" section.

They mention several lesser know and respected makers but no mention of Roscoe!

Of course they failed to mention several key amp's and speaker cabinets in those sections too!

For a magazine committed solely to bass, they sure miss the mark quite freqently!

........oh well, at least we have the forums of TB to get the real news straight from the guys in the trenches!
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:43 AM
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I know it's no big deal but I was a bit surprised, given the popularity and high quality of a Roscoe bass, that it didn't make BP magazines 20th anniversary "Boutique Basses" section.

They mention several lesser know and respected makers but no mention of Roscoe!

Of course they failed to mention several key amp's and speaker cabinets in those sections too!

For a magazine committed solely to bass, they sure miss the mark quite freqently!

........oh well, at least we have the forums of TB to get the real news straight from the guys in the trenches!
Good eye and good call Joe,

This forum will provide better info and much less nonsense than BP IMO. As a new bass player, I've benefited greatly from all the experienced knowledge and advice freely provided by seasoned bass veterans on this page.

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In defense of BP on this one, the mentions in that issue were all excerpts from reviews done on specific basses. There has never been a full-on review by BP of our basses.

We are presently about to send in a couple of instruments (actually two Century Standards, which are the focus, and one Century Signature for comparison) for review, so the next time they have an anniversary issue, hopefully we'll be included.

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Take heart everyone. Most of BP's readers are only now shaving for the first time and working on their learner's permits to drive. There are a few older guys that read it, but if you are familiar with boutique basses....or can afford to shop for one....you're going to know about Roscoes!


Gard, I don't know if you have seen Tom Bowlus' new magazine, Bass Gear Mag, but it is soley devoted to GEAR! No useless artists interviews from bassists that can't even tune their instruments. That publication will actually be right down your target demo's alley.
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So Bass Player has reviewed a cardboard box bass, but never a Roscoe, sweet...
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So Bass Player has reviewed a cardboard box bass, but never a Roscoe, sweet...


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Old 10-18-2008, 02:33 PM
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In defense of BP on this one, the mentions in that issue were all excerpts from reviews done on specific basses. There has never been a full-on review by BP of our basses.

We are presently about to send in a couple of instruments (actually two Century Standards, which are the focus, and one Century Signature for comparison) for review, so the next time they have an anniversary issue, hopefully we'll be included.
I thought that their inclusion criteria might have been "Bass Player reviewed" basses but just because they haven't reviewed a particular brand that doesn't mean it has no validity......



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Take heart everyone. Most of BP's readers are only now shaving for the first time and working on their learner's permits to drive.



I still have my subscription to BP but I've long thought they should change their name from "BASS PLAYER" to ..................................."BASS PAYER".

.........if you don't pay 'em for a Bass Player AD, don't expect to be noticed.....

Ok, Ok........I suppose they are better in that area now than they use to be!
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Gard, I don't know if you have seen Tom Bowlus' new magazine, Bass Gear Mag, but it is soley devoted to GEAR! No useless artists interviews from bassists that can't even tune their instruments. That publication will actually be right down your target demo's alley.
I have to give a big +1 to this. I stopped reading BP a long time ago but can't put down my first issue of Bass Gear Mag. Me, being a gear whore, love their coverage and technical reviews of products. Awesome mag that everyone should check out and definitely put in a paid subscription to so that the magazine can stay afloat for many years to come!! (I don't get any kickbacks from them, BTW).
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Gard, I don't know if you have seen Tom Bowlus' new magazine, Bass Gear Mag, but it is soley devoted to GEAR! No useless artists interviews from bassists that can't even tune their instruments. That publication will actually be right down your target demo's alley.
I've tried to get Gard to send us a couple of basses to review, but so far, he's been blowing me off.

JK, Gard! I know it's 'in the works.'
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I've tried to get Gard to send us a couple of basses to review, but so far, he's been blowing me off.

JK, Gard! I know it's 'in the works.'
...pffft, like we'd let YOU guys review our stuff...












...yeah, actually, once we get the BP ones done, you're next in line. It's a matter of who asked us for review basses first, and getting space in the schedule to actually build them!



Oh, and here's a concept: Come pick the review bass up, we'll get you an interview with Keith and a full-on shop/factory tour for the mag...

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Oh, and here's a concept: Come pick the review bass up, we'll get you an interview with Keith and a full-on shop/factory tour for the mag...

I will actually take some time out of my busy schedule and allow you to interview me as well. I turned down bass player if that makes it more enticing.

You can title the article, "Mac Daddy C, the Purveyor of Low End Love!"
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:15 AM
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I will actually take some time out of my busy schedule and allow you to interview me as well. I turned down bass player if that makes it more enticing.

You can title the article, "Mac Daddy C, the Purveyor of Low End Love!"
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I'll be there if invited (or not invited. . .)

You can title my article, "Lethal Funkmaster A, Man of the Hour & Tower of Power!" [/quote]
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:46 AM
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Coffee talk question of the day: is the fact that Roscoe is so widely held in such high regard without having ever been reviewed in BP more a reflection of (a) Roscoe, or (b) BP? Talk amongst yourselves - I'm feeling verklempt.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:56 AM
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Coffee talk question of the day: is the fact that Roscoe is so widely held in such high regard without having ever been reviewed in BP more a reflection of (a) Roscoe, or (b) BP? Talk amongst yourselves - I'm feeling verklempt.
IIRC A Roscoe bass was reviewed in the August 1997 Ultimate 5 String Shootout issue as part of the shootout.
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IIRC A Roscoe bass was reviewed in the August 1997 Ultimate 5 String Shootout issue as part of the shootout.
A "shootout" is not really an in-depth review, so I don't see it as an equivalent thing. Oh, and that was in '95, IIRC, not '97...

...either way, we are in the process of getting instrument/s to BP for a full review, hopefully by the end of this month we will be shipping.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:23 AM
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Ed Friedland (ex bp contributor) with Bass Emporium did a nice little review of a Roscoe LG along with sound clips. Ed is well respected in the bass world and since he is not an endorser to Roscoe, he can give his true opinions. You can check it out here.
http://www.roscoeguitars.com/reviews.htm
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A "shootout" is not really an in-depth review, so I don't see it as an equivalent thing. Oh, and that was in '95, IIRC, not '97...

...either way, we are in the process of getting instrument/s to BP for a full review, hopefully by the end of this month we will be shipping.
True, its not a detailed review in the usual two page spread thing, but again, if memory serves it was by far one of the most detailed "shoot out" style reviews BP did as they used 4 or 5 pros to review the basses and provide comments etc. FWIW it was 1997, but it was January, not August (http://www.mtdbass.com/pages/The%20U...5%20String.htm).

But yeah, I was just responding to the post that BP had never reviewed a Roscoe - which isn't exactly true as they did one in 1997!
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Ed Friedland (ex bp contributor) with Bass Emporium did a nice little review of a Roscoe LG along with sound clips. Ed is well respected in the bass world and since he is not an endorser to Roscoe, he can give his true opinions. You can check it out here.
http://www.roscoeguitars.com/reviews.htm
Um...well...Ed wasn't an endorser when he did the review...



...he does now own a custom Century Standard however...and is considered an "endorser"...
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I've been subscribing BP since the beginning, but like most of you, I'm thinking very hard to give up my subscription.....

I'm getting very disappointed....

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Old 10-22-2008, 12:58 PM
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Um...well...Ed wasn't an endorser when he did the review...



...he does now own a custom Century Standard however...and is considered an "endorser"...
Throw me a frickin bone here people, I'm the boss, need the info!

Need an in-action photo with Roscoe for the Endorser page!
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