Roscoe Guitars purchased by ABC!

[JOME77]

Rumors of ABC purchasing Roscoe Guitars for a sum of $2.7 billion have been found to be not true.......

However, in an effort to generate activity on the Roscoe forum I thought that I'd address the rumor!


....so is there nothing worth talking about on this forum for 24 hours?!?

I guess that I'll have to check out the American Idol rumors ..........

[Big Mother]

ABC the band?

I didn’t know they had that kind of money.

Loved the Lexicon Of Love album, bought it twice, so that may explain their amassed fortune.


BM

[lwrthnwhalepoop]

Joe,

Yeah, I too noticed it's pretty quiet here lately. I've got a rare semi-slow period at work and I've been checking in and finding little or no activity.

As long as we're here, I think I noticed in another thread that you had a Spanish Cedar-bodied bass that you put Bart CB's in and loved the sound. I've got a Spanish Cedar SKB3006 that has the Roscoe Barts in it and I love the sound but it doesn't cut well at all. I think I'd prefer a more open sound (it now sounds like it's got a cold).

I'd love to hear more about your bass and how the CB's changed the sound. The rest of you Roscoeheads are encouraged to join in too, of course.

I know the pickups are contributing a lot to the compressed tone I'm getting. I recently acquired an SKB3005 that's Swamp Ash and fretted and which also has the Roscoe Barts, and it has a similar tone though not quite as dark and woody.

I *love* the bass, one way or another, I'm just pondering my options.

Dave

[chadds]

I have a Spanish Cedar bodied, Madrone Topped w/Ebony Fretbd, LG3005. It was dark and wouldn't cut.
The CB made an immediate change to light and airy with the warm and powerful. DR Sunbeams brought out all these musical overtones that I didn't even hear with D'Addarios. D'Addarios are the perfect string on my other LG3005 however.

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by lwrthnwhalepoop

Joe,

Yeah, I too noticed it's pretty quiet here lately. I've got a rare semi-slow period at work and I've been checking in and finding little or no activity.

As long as we're here, I think I noticed in another thread that you had a Spanish Cedar-bodied bass that you put Bart CB's in and loved the sound. I've got a Spanish Cedar SKB3006 that has the Roscoe Barts in it and I love the sound but it doesn't cut well at all. I think I'd prefer a more open sound (it now sounds like it's got a cold).

I'd love to hear more about your bass and how the CB's changed the sound. The rest of you Roscoeheads are encouraged to join in too, of course.

I know the pickups are contributing a lot to the compressed tone I'm getting. I recently acquired an SKB3005 that's Swamp Ash and fretted and which also has the Roscoe Barts, and it has a similar tone though not quite as dark and woody.

I *love* the bass, one way or another, I'm just pondering my options.

Dave

Dave,
The Bart CB's do sound more open than the Roscoe Bart's. I think that it'll make a noticable sound difference on your bass. To go a step further, you should consider the Roscoe (or Tyler) Demeter. IMO it completes the task of opening up the sound. It gives you a "more traditional" slap tone. It has very musical sounding mids, smooth lows and glassy highs. I really liked the Audere but to me it just doesn't open the sound up like the Demeter does.

I also installed a stock Demeter pre in a local players Roscoe (loaded with the Roscoe Bart p/u's) and the Demeter really opened up the sound of his bass. He loves it and is staying with the Roscoe Bart p/u's

[Darkstrike]

Originally Posted by JOME77

....so is there nothing worth talking about on this forum for 24 hours?!?

I just assumed everyone was playing their Roscoes!

Originally Posted by lwrthnwhalepoop

Joe,

Yeah, I too noticed it's pretty quiet here lately. I've got a rare semi-slow period at work and I've been checking in and finding little or no activity.

As long as we're here, I think I noticed in another thread that you had a Spanish Cedar-bodied bass that you put Bart CB's in and loved the sound. I've got a Spanish Cedar SKB3006 that has the Roscoe Barts in it and I love the sound but it doesn't cut well at all. I think I'd prefer a more open sound (it now sounds like it's got a cold).

I'd love to hear more about your bass and how the CB's changed the sound. The rest of you Roscoeheads are encouraged to join in too, of course.

I know the pickups are contributing a lot to the compressed tone I'm getting. I recently acquired an SKB3005 that's Swamp Ash and fretted and which also has the Roscoe Barts, and it has a similar tone though not quite as dark and woody.

I *love* the bass, one way or another, I'm just pondering my options.

Dave

Funny you should mention pickups, I've been thinking of mine...

Now I love the tone as is, Roscoe Barts & Pre, but with all the talk of Demeters, Audrees, CBs, Nordies etc. I've been thinking of changing, kinda half heartedly, I men, kinda seems like fixing something thats not broken(and ruining perfectin in the process), but I'm severly curious.....
Espcially as everyone says the Roscoe Barts are "compressed" which is a sound I usually despise, which confuses me, with how much I love these pickups.

Was also thinking of replacing the volume pot with a push/pull for coil tapping.

Now, on the opposite side, I dunno why, but I love the slap tone I can get with it stock, I pull out the mid freq. selection pot, and cut the low mids, quite a lot, definatly not all the way, boost the treble to max, and boost the bass a bit, but not too much, neck pickup, IIRC, and slap as if I knew what I was doing! Its hard to explain in text, lol.

[jimb213]

well I haven't posted much because I'm still waiting on Gard to send me pictures so I can bump my build thread...

My spanish cedar (fretless) LG3005 seems to cut through fine with a little bump up at 800 hz (mid knob pulled out) with the Bart 3-band. It never gets bright and zingy, but it's definitely not just indistinguishable low end, either.

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by Darkstrike

Funny you should mention pickups, I've been thinking of mine...

Now I love the tone as is, Roscoe Barts & Pre, but with all the talk of Demeters, Audrees, CBs, Nordies etc. I've been thinking of changing, kinda half heartedly, I men, kinda seems like fixing something thats not broken(and ruining perfection in the process), but I'm severely curious.....
Especially as everyone says the Roscoe Bart's are "compressed" which is a sound I usually despise, which confuses me, with how much I love these pickups.

lol

It can be contagious for sure!

If you dig the sound that you're getting just stay with it.

I will say though that It's nice to be able to A/B Roscoe's with different combo's (wood and electronics). If you can't do that, it can be difficult to compare the sounds by memory. So many factors figure into the equation.

[lwrthnwhalepoop]

Originally Posted by JOME77

lol

It can be contagious for sure!

If you dig the sound that you're getting just stay with it.

I will say though that It's nice to be able to A/B Roscoe's with different combo's (wood and electronics). If you can't do that, it can be difficult to compare the sounds by memory. So many factors figure into the equation.

+1 for not fixin' what ain't broke.

I do love the tone of my bass. It's got a woodsy, meaty tone that's really close to an acoustic upright, which is a good thing given what I want to use it for. If all I did was record small jazz & blues combo stuff with it, I wouldn't dream of messing with it. I'm just looking for more of an open sound with a bit more "sizzle" on the top end so it'll cut through a denser or busier mix a bit better, in the hopes I can gain a little versatility in doing so.

I'm looking to get closer to my first Roscoe (kinda like a first crush, isn't it?) which I'm happy to say I still own. It's from the early '90s, an SKB 2006 (yes, a 2006) with a non-carved top of quilted maple over Swamp Ash. It's got the bigger Barts - 1-3/4" wide roughly, same width top-to-bottom as the Barts in the newer Roscoes. Huge, well-defined sound that's really versatile and can go from P-bass to J-bass with a bunch of other sounds I really dig. It's bright but never washed-out or pingy. I also like its 3-band eq with a 3-way toggle switch for the mid frequency. Now if it only had the current model Roscoe Hipshot bridge...alas, so many projects and so little time.

Thanks for the feedback & suggestions; keep 'em coming.

I'll try to put up some sound clips if I can dig up something where the bass can be heard clearly.

[Darkstrike]

Originally Posted by JOME77

lol

It can be contagious for sure!

If you dig the sound that you're getting just stay with it.

I will say though that It's nice to be able to A/B Roscoe's with different combo's (wood and electronics). If you can't do that, it can be difficult to compare the sounds by memory. So many factors figure into the equation.

This is exactly what I wish I could do, heh, need to book a flight and visit Greg and his wall of Roscoes........

[JOME77]

Originally Posted by Darkstrike

This is exactly what I wish I could do, heh, need to book a flight and visit Greg and his wall of Roscoes........

+1 on that! I'd love to take that J style Roscoe on a test drive!

I've also considered borrowing my "hog hunting" son in-laws night vision glasses to assist in a covert operation to procure Data's 2 new beauties prior to their delivery!

[Darkstrike]

Originally Posted by JOME77

+1 on that! I'd love to take that J style Roscoe on a test drive!

I've also considered borrowing my "hog hunting" son in-laws night vision glasses to assist in a covert operation to procure Data's 2 new beauties prior to their delivery!

For sure, to both of those!


Opratives are in position........

[Gard]

You two clowns better work fast, the Poacher is picking up his new babies today, about lunchtime.

Jim, I'm waiting for them to get your bass in the spray booth and get a clear coat over it so I have something TO photograph! The neck is almost finished, however, so we're looking like next week!

[Darkstrike]

Originally Posted by Gard

You two clowns better work fast, the Poacher is picking up his new babies today, about lunchtime.

It'll be too late! Mwahahahahaha!

[jimb213]

Originally Posted by Gard

Jim, I'm waiting for them to get your bass in the spray booth and get a clear coat over it so I have something TO photograph! The neck is almost finished, however, so we're looking like next week!

Sounds good, Gard, I'm just giving you a hard time

[RocketMusic]

Originally Posted by JOME77

+1 on that! I'd love to take that J style Roscoe on a test drive!

We'll be recording the show tonight after our Blacksburg/Roanoke GTG... I can't wait to hear how my bass sounds in a mix!

I'll have to get Gard up there for a couple tunes, too, to see how his non-J Roscoe sounds compared to mine. I'll get him on tape butchering some song he's never played before, it'll be great!!

[chadds]

Rumors of Roscoe's purchase by Fender Musical Instruments have been greatly exaggerated.

Keith wasn't considering it as any offer would be unflattering.

Fender said, "we'll build our own".
When Fender R&D attempted a spalted top by mixing sawdust, cornstarch and water the deal fell through. Painting a purple stripe on the back of the necks didn't fool any of the focus groups. Putting the raised word "Italian" on the pickups didn't make the testers forget that these weren't real Barts.

Some say you can't buy happiness. Well some big corp. can't.
With Roscoe I'm buying a little piece of happiness as each bass.

[Darkstrike]

Originally Posted by chadds

Rumors of Roscoe's purchase by Fender Musical Instruments have been greatly exaggerated.

*waits in line for the all new Fender Keith Roscoe Beck 3005*

[CrashClint]

If Roscoe was purchased by any news conglomerate it would be FOX. Fair and Balanced!

[chadds]

Originally Posted by CrashClint

If Roscoe was purchased by any news conglomerate it would be FOX. Fair and Balanced!

LOL