Roscoe through a GB shuttle 6.0?

Gtrslngr · #1 08-25-2008, 06:44 PM

I need to upgrade my amp and I know this is not the amp forum, but I was just wondering if any of you have tried a shuttle 6.0. I know that most of us here have a Roscoe, which I have discovered takes tone to a new level and now I feel I trying to figure how I can get a good amp head without spending too much. I got a couple of carvin cabs with 10's and tweeter horns that I plan to use the amp head with until I can afford to upgrade the cab. Any ideas or opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike

chadds · #2 08-25-2008, 07:24 PM

Find whatever lets that glorious Roscoe tone through! Something that sounds good flat or nearly flat. Flat though not technically flat means with the tone controls mostly or completely out of the circuit. My opinion.

CrashClint · #3 08-25-2008, 09:46 PM

Well, if the Shuttle sounds anything like the GBE600, then it will sound good. I have played mine through the Eden WTX260 using either the DXLT212 or my Epifani UL210 and it sounds great.

ghiadub · #4 08-26-2008, 01:42 AM

I play thru a Mesa Walkabout head and a bag end 210D or a bag end S15 pair.

justBrian · #5 08-26-2008, 06:20 AM

I use either an Eden WT400 or WT330 through and Eden D210XST (4ohm). It's a particularly nice set up--I run everything flat and it absolutely kills.

Gtrslngr · #6 08-26-2008, 09:18 AM

This all started when I unplugged my LG3005 from my 200w Fender w/single 15 and connected to a channel on my Carvin PA, which is only 100w w/single 10's and horn tweeter. I heard more punch and definition than anything I've heard from the Fender. I think it has a lot to do with the difference in speakers. I discussed this with Mike Conn in Raleigh and he says the big 15 doesn't respond as quick as the 10's. This piece of @#$% BXR200 has no way to change or add speakers without taking enclosure apart. I am currently advertising this 75 pound beast locally and will be glad to see it go. I am looking forward to pluggin a good amp head into these PA speakers cause they sound pretty amazing with the PA head. Looks like the same speaker/tweeter combo used in Carvin bass cabs. The Barts really came alive when running to the 10's.

Gard · #7 08-26-2008, 09:49 AM

Man, if you think that Carvin stuff is a huge step up from the Fender BXR combo...DO NOT plug into anything like an Eden or Epifani rig!!!

...it'll destroy your universe, if your only "bass amp experience" is that POS BXR!

FYI, my rig:

Eden WT-550 (AWESOME head)
Eden D-210MBX (wedge monitor style version of the D-210XLT)
Epifani UL210 series II

JOME77 · #8 08-26-2008, 10:42 AM

Yeah, there's a big difference in the sound of a Roscoe (or any bass for that matter) played through a Fender BXR verses an Eden, Epifani, TFunk, Mesa .......... rig.

I also prefer the sound of 10's overall. IMO they just sound punchier and respond better to the low B. Just the right touch of natural compression.
Lately I've been varying the amps and cabinets that I've been playing through. It seems to keep things fresh and keeps me from falling into a boring routine (creature of habit). I use either a TFunk 420, Eden WT400, Ephifani UL502 or GK RB1001II with combinations of either an Epifani UL112, SWR Goliath Jr. III or Avatar Neo 210.

My favorite by far though is the Epi 502 with any of the listed cab's. That amp just matches up well with my solid maple Roscoe w/the Nord/Audere combo.

If you're looking for a great head at a good price though, go for a used GK RB1001II. They can be found for around $450-500 and really have a great sound IMO. Lot's of headroom for that low B too!

Gtrslngr · #9 08-26-2008, 10:44 AM

The BXR is for practice. The venue where I usually play runs me through a GK400, to PA where Mr. Soundman shapes my tone to sound the way he likes it. I don't have a lot of time or cash to invest so I was just seeking advice. I've been playin for 30+ years, but I took a long ride on a rockin horse that damned near killed me. I'm now back and playing better than ever and I got a Roscoe. So life is good. I know I can't afford to upgrade all at once, so I figured I could get by with a good amp head and just use it to push the Carvin Cab's for now. It would help if I could sell the BXR, or I may just have to throw in one of my old basses and trade them in.
Peace,
Mike

DrMWP · #10 08-26-2008, 11:31 AM

I use a Thunderfunk 550A and Epifani and EA cabs.

The TF heads show up here used quite often. I also LOVE my Roscoe with the Aguilar AG500!

CrashClint · #11 08-26-2008, 02:45 PM

Just to chime in again, my main rig is:

Eden Navigator Preamp
Crown XTI2000
Epifani UL210
Eden DXLT212

My little Eden WTX260 sounds pretty good through those cabs like I posted earlier. It will push about 300watts into 4 ohms.

As soon as I recover, I will be stepping down in power. I will sell the Crown and pickup something a little smaller.

Basso Gruvitas · #12 08-26-2008, 03:13 PM

GK 1001 RB + Epifani 212 + Roscoe = "heaven"!

I went through my 10" speaker phase but I love the response of the 12". It's still quicker and more transparent than the 15" speakers but has more bottom than the 10's.

Gtrslngr · #13 08-26-2008, 05:20 PM

Thanks for all the info guys and Clint, I'm still wishing you a speedy recovery. I have the Eden WTX260 on my radar as well as a few others. I also have concerns about how I'm going to get all the bottom I prefer out the 10's, so I may need to add a 12 as well. My plan was to start with the right source and I landed that when I got the Roscoe. Now it just keeps on getting better and I was in a bit of a rut before.

CrashClint · #14 08-26-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gtrslngr

Thanks for all the info guys and Clint, I'm still wishing you a speedy recovery. I have the Eden WTX260 on my radar as well as a few others. I also have concerns about how I'm going to get all the bottom I prefer out the 10's, so I may need to add a 12 as well. My plan was to start with the right source and I landed that when I got the Roscoe. Now it just keeps on getting better and I was in a bit of a rut before.

Thanks Gtrs,

Well, my big rig is upstairs and I am unable to navigate the stairs safely, but if you want to hear what the WTX sounds like through an Epifani UL210, my wife has been gracious enough to allow me to set it up in the living room so you are welcome to come over and try it out.

Rumor has it that Eden is working on a WTX500.

LightGroove · #15 08-26-2008, 07:27 PM

I ran mine through a SWR Workingpro 700 ->Schroeder 21012R. A little more hi-fi than my ampeg setup but the tone just killed .

Some on the higher end stuff may be out of budget but there is still solid stuff to be had at a decent price.Look around the used realm. Plenty on here moving around.

Bass Response · #16 08-26-2008, 10:10 PM

I like to keep things simple. I use a Phil Jones Flight case combo. Any room to big for that I go through the mains and use the combo for a stage monitor. It works great and has very decent tones. btw its 150 watts with 4-5" drivers and only weighs 24 lbs. about 1.5 cubic feet volume. That suits me fine as I am 50 and want to save my back. My Roscoe is in layaway, but when I tested it in the shop on their Phil Jones Rig it had great tone. My 2 cents.

Halftooth · #17 08-26-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gtrslngr

I need to upgrade my amp and I know this is not the amp forum, but I was just wondering if any of you have tried a shuttle 6.0. I know that most of us here have a Roscoe, which I have discovered takes tone to a new level and now I feel I trying to figure how I can get a good amp head without spending too much. I got a couple of carvin cabs with 10's and tweeter horns that I plan to use the amp head with until I can afford to upgrade the cab. Any ideas or opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike

The Shuttle 6.0 is very good with Roscoe, and really, anything Genz Benz should really kill tonally.

uber_goober · #18 08-27-2008, 07:10 AM

I play my SKB3006 through a Shuttle 3.0 and a Bergantino HT112ER (1x12 with a tweeter). For what I do (a lot of live looping), it's a gorgeous balanced tone. And it doesn't break my back for the small venues I play.

Steve Clark · #19 08-27-2008, 08:37 AM

I use an Epi 502 in combination with either a Epi UL110, UL112 and a UL310. I find myself using the 110 or 112 for most of my gigs. I have only used the 310 on a couple of bigger shows but its a great cabinet. I've yet to try the 110 and 112 together but that might be my next step and possibly ditch the 310.

I also have a Markbass F1 as a back up but more often I go to the 502. It seems more refined, for lack of a better word, when hearing my Roscoes through it. Some would say the F1 is better at cutting through the mix but I never really have a problem with the Epi set up. DR Black Beauties + Roscoe + Epi =

However the most important thing when it comes to looking for your new amp/cabs is how they sound to your ears. TB is a great place to hear about how good a certain piece of gear is but it might not be the sound you are looking for. I had the great experience recently of having an SVT and fridge supplied. Never played through one before. It was with my Sadowsky but what a lovely beast that amp and cab is.

Gard · #20 08-27-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Clark

I had the great experience recently of having an SVT and fridge supplied. Never played through one before. It was with my Sadowsky but what a lovely beast that amp and cab is.

Man, here's a taste of "one man's poison, another man's pleasure":

Every time I've played through an SVT rig, including just using the cab, I've HATED it.

Nasally, overly compressed, and NO LOWS at all...nothing but midrange.

Now, as everyone knows, I'm a midrange fanatic, I love the stuff, but not at the expense of fundamental.

FYI, the SVT 810 cab frequency response drops like a rock at ~60hz, and the E string on a bass is 41.2hz, so you're not hearing any fundamental through that cab on anything below the B on the A string (which is 61.74hz)....