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Old 05-10-2008, 09:33 PM
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Looking back to when I first acquired my LG3005 ( I may be here to stay ) brings me to a few revelations. Back in Jan of this yr. I hit the big 50. I decided to pick up a Sadowsky 24-5 from a friend of mine. I fell in love with the neck from the moment I picked it up. The tone, while 180 degrees from my Roscoe with a Demeter pre and Barts, was a nice contrast just the same. I ended playing the Sadowsky for most of my gigs just due to the fact that the two basses sit totally different on my body. Going from the Sad to the LG is like night and day. Believe me it's NOT the 34" to 35" scale difference, but rather where the end of the neck sits because of the body shape. The notes are literally two frets off all the way down the neck. I honestly have contemplated the idea of not keeping them both for that very reason. So not to make the Roscoe jealous, I do manage to pick it up at least for a bit of every practice session.
Last week I had hernia surgery and was told not to lift anything over ten pounds for the immediate future. While the Sad is pretty light in it's own right, my LG is still the lightest bass I have ever owned. Since even sitting upright with a belly full of staples is very uncomfortable, I choose to play the Roscoe for my entire rehab. Just for the hell of it, I put on a set of slightly worn Black Beauties I had lying around and began to play. It hit me like a ton of bricks. What was thinking? I love this bass as much as the day I bought it. It just feels so good. Somehow I am going to try to make this work out for me. Maybe if I split the time 50/50 with both basses, that will do the trick. I do wish the Demeter pre had a bit more output to it however. That pre sounds so good, but just needs some more omph. I've even thought of changing to a Aguilar OBP-3 or maybe a set of Bart CB's or Fat Stacks just to mix things up a bit. Anyway, I guess this just brings me to letting the love affair start all over again.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:56 AM
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Yes what were you thinking-lol. Seriously, I think if you change the pre to a OBP-3 that you definitely find what your looking for. Its the first thing I do when I get a Roscoe with a bart/bart setup. To dark/muddy sounding to me. I do however love the demeter/bart setup I don't understand why your having issues with it. In fact, its my most favorite combo in a Roscoe. Good Luck.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:10 PM
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Yes what were you thinking-lol. Seriously, I think if you change the pre to a OBP-3 that you definitely find what your looking for. Its the first thing I do when I get a Roscoe with a bart/bart setup. To dark/muddy sounding to me. I do however love the demeter/bart setup I don't understand why your having issues with it. In fact, its my most favorite combo in a Roscoe. Good Luck.
The Demeter has great tone, I just wish it had a hotter output. The trim pot on the Bart pre is a great thing IMO.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:15 PM
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Yes what were you thinking-lol. Seriously, I think if you change the pre to a OBP-3 that you definitely find what your looking for. Its the first thing I do when I get a Roscoe with a bart/bart setup. To dark/muddy sounding to me. I do however love the demeter/bart setup I don't understand why your having issues with it. In fact, its my most favorite combo in a Roscoe. Good Luck.
+1 on the Aguilar....or even the Audere. I've had all 4 Roscoe-partnered preamps in my Roscoes and I was the least impressed with the Demeter. I do a lot of slapping so I like top end, but the Demeter is the thinnest sounding of all the Rosoce preamps.

Neither the Aguilar or Audere are THAT expensive. So live a little and drop one in. My SKB came with a Demeter and I dropped an Audere in there. I immediately said goodbye to the Demeter. It's THAT much better.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:32 PM
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My SKB came with a Demeter and I dropped an Audere in there. I immediately said goodbye to the Demeter. It's THAT much better.
I think the Demeter ended up with me via Joe.

I am a repository for Roscoe Demeter preamps, please send them my way!
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:34 PM
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I think the Demeter ended up with me via Joe.

I am a repository for Roscoe Demeter preamps, please send them my way!
Well, to each his own. Whatever basses the good Lord might bring my way in the future, they will not have Demeters...or have them for very long.

Hey, I'll send them to YOU!
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:15 PM
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I have an Audere 3ZB in my Roscoe right now. I guess I like the less mids in the Demeter. I have the Audere hooked up with the Bart Classics. I have the Treble and Bass at 0 and the high mid turned all the way down and the low mid set about 1 o'clock.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:16 PM
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Exclamation Forgot to mention...

That is a beautiful bass Jerry!!

I love the figuring on it. I bet it cuts super well in a mix too.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:20 PM
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That is a beautiful bass Jerry!!

I love the figuring on it. I bet it cuts super well in a mix too.
I agree with BG, awesome grain!

Sorry for jacking the thread.
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:12 PM
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What's up Jerry? Some how I missed this for a while.

We bass players are fickle folks! We find that perfect bass only to wake up one day lusting for something else......

Here's to hoping those days are behind us!

I remember when you struggled to get your sound out of that fine ash Roscoe. When you added that Demeter the sun came out!
Reguardless of what others say, the Roscoe Demeter with Barts just flat out rocks. I love the glassy highs and the smooth lows............... IMO it'll always be one of the classic Roscoe tones (along with the Bart/Bart & Nord/Audere ).

I suspect that it tames that solid piece of ash just perfectly!

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