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04-07-2010, 05:28 PM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | | Where do you wear your Roscoe(s) and Why? (Strap) Fellow Roscoeheads,
I pose the question, Where do you wear your Roscoe(s) in terms of strap length and why.
Coming from a guy who's played Fender and then being blessed with a Roscoe, I find the Roscoe to be more comfortable and also accessable if I wear it considerably higher.
For those of you who live on planet Ding Dong  (aka Poaches house  ) I have a Century body style and I've come to realize I prefer it to sit right below my rib cage. Fender OTOH I wear closer to my waist.
Anybody else have a similar experience?
God Bless, Ray
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04-07-2010, 07:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | | I wear mine in a similar location as you. I typically wear the LG body a little higher but it always seemed to push on my chest...making it feel like I was losing my breathe ...the century no problemo!
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04-07-2010, 08:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dallas | | | I use a short 'comfort strap' and my lg sits decently high--I like to feel the resonance of the body in my ribcage!
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04-07-2010, 09:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: behind a bass | | | I have the short Comfort Strapp too. The top of my LG rests between the bottom of my ribcage and the bottom of my right pectoral. | 
04-08-2010, 08:17 AM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | | So far no "low slingers" with Roscoe. I wonder if that can be attributed to design?
Gard, Where you be? Was that Keith's intention?
God Bless, Ray
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Originally Posted by RocketMusic Ray is correct! | | 
04-08-2010, 08:41 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | ...despite what y'all think, I don't just sit at my desk sipping coffee and goofing off on TB all day, Ray.
(...just half the day!  )
I've been WORKIN' bro!
OK, no, there was no intent in the design to make the bass so that it fit in a particular place, just that it balance well, and hang correctly.
FWIW, I tend to wear mine up, short Comfort Strapp like most of y'all, but not TOO high (no 6 string neck tie, thankyouverymuch), you can get a good idea how high from the action photo thread...
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04-08-2010, 09:17 AM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard ...despite what y'all think, I don't just sit at my desk sipping coffee and goofing off on TB all day, Ray.
(...just half the day!  )
I've been WORKIN' bro!  | Oh I'm sorry, Hey I'll mark my calendar.  So is it Thursdays you work, or the 8th of each month?
I bet Keith was around......  "Still Shakin' Boss".
I can totally picture you as the kid who worked furiously when your parents were called to school, meanwhile perecting the art of the spitball.  Quote:
OK, no, there was no intent in the design to make the bass so that it fit in a particular place, just that it balance well, and hang correctly.
FWIW, I tend to wear mine up, short Comfort Strapp like most of y'all, but not TOO high (no 6 string neck tie, thankyouverymuch), you can get a good idea how high from the action photo thread...
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Everybody digs Comfort Strapps too?
OK next question, which straplocks work best?
This kind of info should be in a handbook....
God Bless, Ray
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Originally Posted by RocketMusic Ray is correct! | | 
04-08-2010, 09:24 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by LilRay Oh I'm sorry, Hey I'll mark my calendar.  So is it Thursdays you work, or the 8th of each month?
I bet Keith was around......  "Still Shakin' Boss".
I can totally picture you as the kid who worked furiously when your parents were called to school, meanwhile perecting the art of the spitball. 
Everybody digs Comfort Strapps too?
OK next question, which straplocks work best?
This kind of info should be in a handbook....
God Bless, Ray | In all seriousness about the working thing - nothing I do is "work", but I work hard at what I do because I love it ("Do what you love, and you'll never work a day in your life."), and really enjoy all you guys out there playing 'em...even you, most of the time.
...and the spitball thing, you know all about that from first-hand experience, I'm bettin'.
On the strap, if you haven't tried a Comfort Strapp, you should. Really.
Straplocks - your bass is already equipped with buttons that function with the Dunlop straplocks, and I recommend them over anything else I've ever tried, hand's down. Not even close.
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04-08-2010, 09:30 AM
|  | Cogito Ergo Idiot | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, CA | | | FWIW, I've got a variety of instruments, and I wear them all about the same "height." I like my hands to be in certain spots, and my first 'benchmark' is in minimizing the break angle of my left wrist. From there I find a balance for the same angle in my right wrist, which is mostly a function of ensuring comfort against the upper body line.
All that said, I do wear my basses pretty high - advice I got eons ago in the "don't knock it 'til you try it" vein. I'm closer to the necktie thing than Gard is, but I do wear 'em a little bit lower than I did a few years back.
+1,000 on Dunlop straplocks. BTW. | 
04-08-2010, 09:39 AM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard In all seriousness about the working thing - nothing I do is "work", but I work hard at what I do because I love it ("Do what you love, and you'll never work a day in your life.", and really enjoy all you guys out there playing 'em...even you, most of the time.  | You work hard so others can be happy right? 
In all honesty I hope to have a job as cool as yours.  So you better tighten up, I'm gunnin' for ya. Quote:
...and the spitball thing, you know all about that from first-hand experience, I'm bettin'. | .......Huh?.......Whut?....... Was you talkin' to me? Quote: |
On the strap, if you haven't tried a Comfort Strapp, you should. Really.
| CHECK! Quote: |
Straplocks - your bass is already equipped with buttons that function with the Dunlop straplocks, and I recommend them over anything else I've ever tried, hand's down. Not even close.
| DOUBLE CHECK!!
One short Comfort Strapp
One pair Dunlop Strap Locks
Hey , Do those locks come in BLACK?
God Bless, Ray
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04-08-2010, 09:48 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by VroomVroom FWIW, I've got a variety of instruments, and I wear them all about the same "height." I like my hands to be in certain spots, and my first 'benchmark' is in minimizing the break angle of my left wrist. From there I find a balance for the same angle in my right wrist, which is mostly a function of ensuring comfort against the upper body line.
All that said, I do wear my basses pretty high - advice I got eons ago in the "don't knock it 'til you try it" vein. I'm closer to the necktie thing than Gard is, but I do wear 'em a little bit lower than I did a few years back.
+1,000 on Dunlop straplocks. BTW. | I agree that I try to keep everything in the same location from bass to bass, and even practice in a way that lets me play with the bass in exactly the same place it is when I'm performing - very important to do that! Nothing like getting your muscle memory all set for sitting in a chair with the bass in your lap, then trying to pull off a tough lick or idea onstage with a strap and finding you can't execute it cleanly because the bass is sitting in a different spot on your body!
My logic/path-of-least-resistance method of where I have my bass hanging is based on the same issues you mention. I was a classical guitar major in college, so I got VERY used to having my left hand in a particular position. My positioning on bass is largely influenced by that experience.
I did find myself with the "bass necktie" going on back in the late 90's, but due to bad positioning of my right wrist and a nice bout of carpal tunnel syndrome, I dropped the strap just a tiny bit so I could keep my right wrist straight.
I've had bad experiences (things coming off the locks) with every other type of locks. Sticking with the Dunlops.
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04-08-2010, 09:49 AM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote:
Originally Posted by VroomVroom FWIW, I've got a variety of instruments, and I wear them all about the same "height." I like my hands to be in certain spots, and my first 'benchmark' is in minimizing the break angle of my left wrist. From there I find a balance for the same angle in my right wrist, which is mostly a function of ensuring comfort against the upper body line.
All that said, I do wear my basses pretty high - advice I got eons ago in the "don't knock it 'til you try it" vein. I'm closer to the necktie thing than Gard is, but I do wear 'em a little bit lower than I did a few years back.
+1,000 on Dunlop straplocks. BTW. | Jerry,
Since being welcomed into the Roscoe family, I'm trying all sorts of new things.  But I always try and follow the ol' M.U.A.R. (Maximum Utilization of Available Resources) as it serves me well.
I like the idea of minimizing the break angle on the left wrist but I don't think I could physically use my right hand effectively with the bass much higher thhan where I've got it now.
It's been a blast experimenting though.
God Bless, Ray
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04-08-2010, 09:57 AM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard I agree that I try to keep everything in the same location from bass to bass, and even practice in a way that lets me play with the bass in exactly the same place it is when I'm performing - very important to do that! Nothing like getting your muscle memory all set for sitting in a chair with the bass in your lap, then trying to pull off a tough lick or idea onstage with a strap and finding you can't execute it cleanly because the bass is sitting in a different spot on your body!
My logic/path-of-least-resistance method of where I have my bass hanging is based on the same issues you mention. I was a classical guitar major in college, so I got VERY used to having my left hand in a particular position. My positioning on bass is largely influenced by that experience.
I did find myself with the "bass necktie" going on back in the late 90's, but due to bad positioning of my right wrist and a nice bout of carpal tunnel syndrome, I dropped the strap just a tiny bit so I could keep my right wrist straight.
I've had bad experiences (things coming off the locks) with every other type of locks. Sticking with the Dunlops. | See you guys have much more "real world" experience and that's helpful
I'll always be the "oddball" .
Thanks Guys
God Bless, Ray
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04-08-2010, 10:16 AM
|  | Providing the Lowend for the High One | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bonaire, GA (near Macon) | | Quote:
Originally Posted by LilRay One pair Dunlop Strap Locks
Hey , Do those locks come in BLACK?
God Bless, Ray | Sure, but not on the Standard Century!
I wear my basses fairly high too......and I guess that I'm the odd ball. I prefer the Schaller strap lock system. I feel a bit more security knowing that bass hangs on the strap u-shaped connectors. | 
04-08-2010, 10:28 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JOME77 Sure, but not on the Standard Century!  | But it is easily swappable! Quote: |
I wear my basses fairly high too......and I guess that I'm the odd ball. I prefer the Schaller strap lock system. I feel a bit more security knowing that bass hangs on the strap u-shaped connectors.
| My experience with the Schaller locks was that the bolt can work its way loose and if that happens....WHOOPS!!!....I almost had to repair a very nice ES-335 headstock, had I been just a bit slower reacting to it...caught the guitar by the body with the headstock not 2" from the ground...I'll pass on their system of attaching the lock to the strap, thanks....the Dunlop CAN'T come off the strap.
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04-08-2010, 10:45 AM
|  | Providing the Lowend for the High One | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bonaire, GA (near Macon) | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard But it is easily swappable!  | Is that the same as swapstituted?
..........I don't know why I like talking about black hardware so much! But I do!  | 
04-08-2010, 11:02 AM
|  | Well, Ahoy Paloi | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA | | | Bass, strap and locks LG 3006 - Smith strap up high (easier to reach all 6 strings) w/ Dunlops
Century Standard - Small Comfort Strapp up w/ Dunlops
Modulus Q - Small Comfort Strapp w/ Dunlops
Musicman- Ernie Ball strap with strap locks
(Disclaimer- sorry for the blasphemous EB reference in a Roscoe forum- done only for educational purposes)
Also, FWIW I practice standing as much as possible to emulate the gig situations (which also means a Samuel Adams now and again). | 
04-08-2010, 11:45 AM
|  | Registered User Artist: Genz Benz/ AccuGroove/MLP Basses | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The O-X baby! (Oxford Mi.) | | | Comfort Strapp shorty here as well. Got like 4 of them!
+1 on the wear it like you play it live when practicing.
I told my students a good starting point for strap length was when sitting, have the strap adjusted so the bass was just touching your leg. Not having the weight of the bass on your leg, but have the strap holding it.
That way when you stand up, the bass is in the same spot.
And yes, I also did the bass neck-tie thingy.....didn't we all?
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04-08-2010, 12:44 PM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JOME77 Sure, but not on the Standard Century!  | Joe, I will never defile the Cowboys Roscoe with anything Black (That's one of them NOLA colors  )
Blue and Silver believe you me ! Quote: |
I wear my basses fairly high too......and I guess that I'm the odd ball. I prefer the Schaller strap lock system. I feel a bit more security knowing that bass hangs on the strap u-shaped connectors.
| You've been out voted Joe.  Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard But it is easily swappable!
My experience with the Schaller locks was that the bolt can work its way loose and if that happens....WHOOPS!!!....I almost had to repair a very nice ES-335 headstock, had I been just a bit slower reacting to it...caught the guitar by the body with the headstock not 2" from the ground...I'll pass on their system of attaching the lock to the strap, thanks....the Dunlop CAN'T come off the strap. | I've had this experience(without locks) with someone "strapping" my bass for me, and not connecting the strap right. Luckily I've got great hand eye coordination. Quote:
Originally Posted by JOME77 Is that the same as swapstituted?  | ^^^^
Naw man, everybody with good Georgia book learnin' knows the word is switchteded.  Quote:
..........I don't know why I like talking about black hardware so much! But I do! | Jus' so's everybody's clear Betwixed (another Jawja werd) all the hardware colors Joe reckons BLACK is 'bout the purdyest. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bipslapper LG 3006 - Smith strap up high (easier to reach all 6 strings) w/ Dunlops
Century Standard - Small Comfort Strapp up w/ Dunlops
Modulus Q - Small Comfort Strapp w/ Dunlops
Musicman- Ernie Ball strap with strap locks
(Disclaimer- sorry for the blasphemous EB reference in a Roscoe forum- done only for educational purposes)
Also, FWIW I practice standing as much as possible to emulate the gig situations (which also means a Samuel Adams now and again). | EB? Sacreliage!
I also shall not defile a Roscoe with another companies logo. Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeBass Comfort Strapp shorty here as well. Got like 4 of them!
+1 on the wear it like you play it live when practicing.
I told my students a good starting point for strap length was when sitting, have the strap adjusted so the bass was just touching your leg. Not having the weight of the bass on your leg, but have the strap holding it.
That way when you stand up, the bass is in the same spot. And yes, I also did the bass neck-tie thingy.....didn't we all? | Good point Mike,
And as to the necktie thingy, um NO (I didn't)  . If I were to have tied a bass around my neck that high, the ensuing goofiness would have solidified my need for "Special" school.
God Bless, Ray
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04-08-2010, 01:39 PM
|  | Providing the Lowend for the High One | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bonaire, GA (near Macon) | | Quote:
Originally Posted by LilRay
You've been out voted Joe. 
God Bless, Ray | Yeah, I can't argue on that point. I guess now you've got to ask yourself a question, do you really want to settle on just conforming to the masses or do you want to step out, be different and be real special?
The choice is yours. Fine German craftsmanship or something made by a dude named Seymour.
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