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09-14-2010, 08:07 AM
| | If you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail. | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Harrow, London, U.K | | | VV Brown pedal board??
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Hey Janek (or anyone else that might know)
i was checking out some of your recent tour vids with VV and at points there is this fat synth sound, what are you using for these sounds man?
heres the vid im talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4KBQ...eature=recentu
Dave | 
09-14-2010, 08:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: N.W. Indiana, USA | | Not sure if this is the exact pedal board that Janek was using in that vid but here is one iteration he was using on the tour courtesy of his twitter.
It would be cool if Janek could give us a quick rundown of how his board is routed. It looks like he's running both volume/expression pedals into the Moog Low Pass Filter. It's pretty amazing the amount of tweakibility there is with Moog pedals.
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09-14-2010, 02:04 PM
|  | Registered User Founder and CEO of http://videobasslessons.tv | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York/Los Angeles | | | yep, that's the one..... kept it pretty simple for this past tour. I had the ocatve pedal and distortion on the chain before the moog, the volume pedal controls everything in the board, expression pedal controls the moog, a simple A-B box to switch between the Fodera and the P-Bass so I could have them both plugged in at the same time with a homemade loom, and then the Black foot switch is for the backtracks to switch tot he redundant backup system if anything went wrong with the master system. It's all loomed up so my tech could just open up the pedal board and plug in the basses, the amp, and the backing tracks.
As soon as I got off the road with VV I switched up the board, re routed everything, and now it's setup for my own band again.
Janek | 
09-14-2010, 02:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: N.W. Indiana, USA | | | Cool! Thanks for the clarification, Janek.
Do you have the expression pedal hooked up to the cutoff on the Moog? | 
09-15-2010, 03:42 AM
| | If you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail. | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Harrow, London, U.K | | | thanks man, thats cleared things up quite a bit. i tried out the moogerfooger once and had trouble getting it to sound how i expected it to, maybe i should get hold of one again and give it another shot.
Dave | 
09-15-2010, 04:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | thats a common thing with pedals, some guys expect them to do something a certain way, but in the end they don't. Their is not alot of usable effects for bass. but depending on genre or creativity many "bad" effects can be used depending on how willing or able the player can work with a effect. Good "synth" like bass is for sure a modern tone. I can see alot of players looking for a traditional bass to sound like a synth from having electronic influenced backgrounds. Such as drum n bass and many break beat based electronic music. Your basically trying to emulate a subtractive synthesizer. Using a octave generator produces the oscillator like tones, and the moog provides the filtering. hence the name "subtractive" synth since the filter removes or subtracts certain frequencies. the cutoff point of what frequencies gets removed can be shifted by the cutoff of the filter. this is the basic idea but there is much more to it, as far as getting real cool sounds which use multible filters with modulation. the cool thing about the moog is the players foot can provide the modulation with the expression pedal. its almost like guitar players get their squaky little wah pedals. but bass players get to have fun with really cool lowpass filters. unfair is a wah is 89$ and a moog lowpass is 249$ | 
09-15-2010, 06:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: N.W. Indiana, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BogeyBass thats a common thing with pedals, some guys expect them to do something a certain way, but in the end they don't. Their is not alot of usable effects for bass. but depending on genre or creativity many "bad" effects can be used depending on how willing or able the player can work with a effect. Good "synth" like bass is for sure a modern tone. I can see alot of players looking for a traditional bass to sound like a synth from having electronic influenced backgrounds. Such as drum n bass and many break beat based electronic music. Your basically trying to emulate a subtractive synthesizer. Using a octave generator produces the oscillator like tones, and the moog provides the filtering. hence the name "subtractive" synth since the filter removes or subtracts certain frequencies. the cutoff point of what frequencies gets removed can be shifted by the cutoff of the filter. this is the basic idea but there is much more to it, as far as getting real cool sounds which use multible filters with modulation. the cool thing about the moog is the players foot can provide the modulation with the expression pedal. its almost like guitar players get their squaky little wah pedals. but bass players get to have fun with really cool lowpass filters. unfair is a wah is 89$ and a moog lowpass is 249$ | Good points. | 
09-15-2010, 11:15 AM
|  | Registered User Founder and CEO of http://videobasslessons.tv | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York/Los Angeles | | | Yeah, my expression pedal is hooked up to the Cutoff of the moog.
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