*** la bella!?

[Number27]

so i bought i set of la bella deep talkin flats FL260s or something.. the ones that are 43 thru 104. anyway, i'm putting them on my new p/j and i get to the a string.. i'm winding it on.. and i'm noticing that the strings a little long. the silk ends way to soon and i'm having to wind the full width portion of the string round the post. not a whole lot, maybe an inch at most. then i get to the e string.. same problem, only because the tuning post is that much closer to the nut i'm having to wind about 2 inches of non-silk around the post.

naturally the string breaks...

i check out the packaging, and it actually says on it: "warning: do not wind non silk portion of the string round the tuning peg, the string may break"

so *** am i supposed to do? extend my bridge or something? i don't get it. anyone else had this problem?

[Fajah]

Originally Posted by Number27

so *** am i supposed to do? extend my bridge or something? i don't get it. anyone else had this problem?

You obviously bought the wrong length. From what I can see, there are 4 lengths offered;

http://www.juststrings.com/labellael...flatwound.html

Replace the set or buy singles that will fit your bass properly;

http://www.juststrings.com/deeptalki...lestrings.html

[Number27]

nooo, cuz the packaging does not say "extra long" on it, as it does in the picture on js.

[rodl2005]

SUX!

[Slax]

Originally Posted by Number27

nooo, cuz the packaging does not say "extra long" on it, as it does in the picture on js.

If that's the case, I'd contact the company and let them know. I've heard other people getting a second set free after buying a pack of duds.

[Pilgrim]

Labellas are great strings, but it does sound like you got the wrong length for your instrument. I've used a number of labella sets and never had this problem.

It's possible that some strings got in the wrong package - I agree, contcat the company - explain the situation - hopefully they'll ask you to send the strings back with the packaging and see if they'll help.

[coolrunner989]

so wait, you're only suppossed to wind the part of the string that has silk on it? Is this just for LaBellas? Cuz I've never heard of that before, and I've never had a problem with it on other strings (DR for example)

[greenboy]

The gist of it is that on the fattest strings in a set you aren't supposed to have the final wrap wire going around the tuning peg (wrap wire is set up to taper the string for the peg and the hole on E and B strings usually). Strings break really easily when you do. The "silk" is immaterial.

[FatherDH]

I just experienced the same exact thing! What happened with the OP? Did you contact the company or just bite the bullet?

[seanm]

I just checked both my P basses with Labella's; one with FL and one with FS. On both basses the silk on the E string completely wraps on the tuner. I have no silk left, but I also have no bare string touching.

What bass are you using?

[FatherDH]

I have a '76 Fender P-Bass. I had the string on for about 10 seconds before it popped, it felt so good for those 10 seconds!

[seanm]

Are you sure you have the standard long scale and not extra long scale? If you have the standard long scale I would contact Labella. A '76 P bass should be a perfect fit!

And I am not jealous that you have a '76

EDIT: What colour are the silks? My FLs are red and the FS black. Not sure if the scale changes this.

[greenboy]

Not a brand-specific issue BTW. A few years back I ordered a couple GHS Pressurewound low B strings that were advertised to have a 36.5" winding length, but though the string envelope print indicated 36.5", the strings themselves took the outer wrap all the way out to 38" or so, which resulted in too much non-flexible mass attempting to wind around the tuning shaft. The string broke right at that juncture. I contected GHS and the rep I got assured me that the string should have dropped the final wrap by 36.5". They sent me a replacement which supposedly was right - which also took the final wrap out to 38"! Smack!

Fortunately, some brands and models of strings have fatter strings available with several final wrap lengths - you just have to buy the right ones for your bass, being aware of the distance from ball-end to tuning peg when doing so.

[Kromwarp]

Originally Posted by Number27

so i bought i set of la bella deep talkin flats FL260s or something.. the ones that are 43 thru 104. anyway, i'm putting them on my new p/j and i get to the a string.. i'm winding it on.. and i'm noticing that the strings a little long. the silk ends way to soon and i'm having to wind the full width portion of the string round the post. not a whole lot, maybe an inch at most. then i get to the e string.. same problem, only because the tuning post is that much closer to the nut i'm having to wind about 2 inches of non-silk around the post.

naturally the string breaks...

i check out the packaging, and it actually says on it: "warning: do not wind non silk portion of the string round the tuning peg, the string may break"

so *** am i supposed to do? extend my bridge or something? i don't get it. anyone else had this problem?

I bought these strings for my acoustic bass. When I got them, I found that they were to large in diameter to fit on my bass. I realized this only after I busted the nut...but, I glued the broken part of the nut back on, filed out both the bridge and nut grooves, aand they work fine.

[Zooberwerx]

Originally Posted by greenboy

Fortunately, some brands and models of strings have fatter strings available with several final wrap lengths - you just have to buy the right ones for your bass, being aware of the distance from ball-end to tuning peg when doing so.

Ain't that the truth? I've purchased more than a couple of used basses (yes, right here on TB) that arrived with the wrong strings installed...more specifically, 34" strings on 35" scale basses which results in the taper / silk wrap not clearing the nut. Impossible to set-up correctly. Ideally, the full diameter should fully clear the nut and then immediately taper to a post-compatible diameter.

The most difficult case I encountered was a 35.5" scale 5 banger whereas the the B string crosses both a zero fret and string guide, then fully tapers within a distance of 1-1.25" before contacting the tuner. The DR's (forget which type) work perfectly.

Riis

[greenboy]

Originally Posted by Zooberwerx

Ain't that the truth? I've purchased more than a couple of used basses (yes, right here on TB) that arrived with the wrong strings installed...more specifically, 34" strings on 35" scale basses which results in the taper / silk wrap not clearing the nut. Impossible to set-up correctly.

To think that some of these people might also make fun of guitards ; }

Ideally, the full diameter should fully clear the nut and then immediately taper to a post-compatible diameter.

I'd probably amend that to "just as long as the taper happens early enough for the tuning shaft string combination to work well and with no outer wrap too close when brought to tune." Reason? A string maker would have to provide many more lengths yet to accomodate all the variations in bridge design, string through ferrule geometry, and headstock tuner placement if it were indeed important that the fatter strings go to taper right after the nut.

[Zooberwerx]

Originally Posted by greenboy

I'd probably amend that to "just as long as the taper happens early enough for the tuning shaft string combination to work well and with no outer wrap too close when brought to tune."

That is a better definition. I've noticed that when the outer wrap comes close or in contact with the tuner, it also creates an ungodly lateral displacement at the nut.

Riis

[greenboy]

Originally Posted by Zooberwerx

That is a better definition. I've noticed that when the outer wrap comes close or in contact with the tuner, it also creates an ungodly lateral displacement at the nut.

Yep, and when you have headstock tuner placement that offsets the "line" of the string considerably that becomes more obvious. Usually one can do similar to what one should always do at the bridge barrel witness point - put an appropriate bend there so things are fairly aligned.

[Number27]

Originally Posted by FatherDH

I just experienced the same exact thing! What happened with the OP? Did you contact the company or just bite the bullet?

as i remember i went to their website but couldn't find the contact email so i said **** it.

Originally Posted by seanm

I just checked both my P basses with Labella's; one with FL and one with FS. On both basses the silk on the E string completely wraps on the tuner. I have no silk left, but I also have no bare string touching.

What bass are you using?

it was an SX 62P/J

Originally Posted by FatherDH

I have a '76 Fender P-Bass. I had the string on for about 10 seconds before it popped, it felt so good for those 10 seconds!

didn't it? same here

Originally Posted by seanm

Are you sure you have the standard long scale and not extra long scale? If you have the standard long scale I would contact Labella. A '76 P bass should be a perfect fit!

And I am not jealous that you have a '76

EDIT: What colour are the silks? My FLs are red and the FS black. Not sure if the scale changes this.

the silks were definetly red. i measured the length from silk edge to ball and it was 37 1/2 inches

[bongomania]

That's bizarre. Sounds like a problem from the manufacturer. Too late now, but you probably should have hunted down a contact and asked for a correct replacement.