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Old 05-04-2007, 05:03 PM
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my string (E) is buzzing. after i changed my e into D'Addario string, my e buzzes like a hell. i dont know how to fix it.

the string height seems good but i dont know why it buzzes.

please i need a help to fix it!
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:09 PM
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Where/when does it buzz? Open? At what frets? (try each fret).
Did you also change string sizes? And, could it be buzzing between the nut and the tuning machine? That's kinda common with A strings on some basses. Put your finger on the string near the tuning machine and see if that makes the buzz go away. Otherwise, let us know more information.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:20 PM
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well it buzzes in open string (E string). it buzzes in the part where the head and neck meet ,and also buzzes on the bridge alot. the string is .105 inches thick. well my bridge is one of worst bridges in the world - squier bridge.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:26 PM
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OK.... Could be the spring on the long bolt that goes through the bridge and the E string saddle. Sometimes those rattle. But that's a rattle, and not a buzz. Could be one of the 2 height adjusting screws in the saddle (barrel). But, it could just be the string.
Now, if you've eliminated the things above, play it at different frets all the way up the neck. Does it buzz at every fret? Where does the buzzing stop?
It could be that you need to adjust the relief (truss rod) since you changed the brand of string. It may have a different tension, and the neck may have relaxed a bit.
Hold down the E at the first fret, and then the 20th or so, and look under the string around the 7th or 8th fret. Is there a small amount of space? There should be (to eliminate buzzing). If the string is touching the frets in the middle, you may want to consider adjusting the truss rod a weeeeee bit to give some relief.
You also did not tell me what happens if you hold the string ahead of the nut.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:40 PM
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it still buzzes when i hold the string ahead of nut. could trust rod cause the string buzz? when i push the fret really hard, then the string touches the neck. i kinda hear rattle too but i can clearly hear the buzz also. i cant really find where the buzz stops. i still can hear the buzz on 20 fret. well im pretty much beginner at bass so there is a chance maybe im hearing something bad.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:42 PM
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if i have to adjust the trust rod, o no that's gonna b a problem cuz i dont have a kit for it and also i dont know how to do it
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it still buzzes when i hold the string ahead of nut. could trust rod cause the string buzz? when i push the fret really hard, then the string touches the neck. i kinda hear rattle too but i can clearly hear the buzz also. i cant really find where the buzz stops. i still can hear the buzz on 20 fret. well im pretty much beginner at bass so there is a chance maybe im hearing something bad.
OK, well, first, when you hold down at the 1st and 20th frets, foes the string touch any frets in the middle?
That really has to be figured out before any other adjustments are made. Adjusting the truss rod is not hard, but unless you are very confident, I would recommend you hold off and we can talk about it later. First, tell me if the string touches in the middle when you hold down at the first AND 20th frets at the same time.

What concerns me as well is that you say it still happens at the 20th fret. Hmmm...then it could be that the action is too low, some frets are too high, or what else?? Maybe it is just a rattle you are hearing. Did you check the other things on the bridge that I mentioned?
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Enchanter Tim is probably the most patient / helpful person on TB! Haha!

Anyway, I haven't read all of the posts, but on of the things that caused fret buzz on my first bass was worn out frets. I got them professionaly restored, and my bass played like a dream after that, so give it a try!
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if i have to adjust the trust rod, o no that's gonna b a problem cuz i dont have a kit for it and also i dont know how to do it

All you need to adjust a truss rod is an appropriately sized allen key.

Also.... Wheh you adjust a truss rod, the big secret is: Take it easy!!!


Do this...:very small truss rod adjustment (about 1/4 turn), then retune.... Continue till you are satisfied!!!

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here is the picture of the middle of the string when i held 1 and 20th fret

i felt like iw as doing yoga while trying to take this pic
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:10 PM
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one more pic here tho btw thx very much for both of u guys. tim i appreciate that u r rly patient at this ^^
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:41 PM
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From your last pic, it looks like the string is to low. I could be wrong though.
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nah i was pushing 1st and 20th fret in all of the pictures
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All you need to adjust a truss rod is an appropriately sized allen key.

Also.... Wheh you adjust a truss rod, the big secret is: Take it easy!!!


Do this...:very small truss rod adjustment (about 1/4 turn), then retune.... Continue till you are satisfied!!!

HTH
I don't even remember what HTH means, haha. It's 2 am over here... I think I should go to bed soon...
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I don't even remember what HTH means, haha. It's 2 am over here... I think I should go to bed soon...

Or not.... I'm not even tired... But I'm kind of becoming a bit crazy. I don't even know what I'm posting anymore. I'll probably read this in a few hours time and be really embarassed at how stupid my posts were!
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Or not.... I'm not even tired... But I'm kind of becoming a bit crazy. I don't even know what I'm posting anymore. I'll probably read this in a few hours time and be really embarassed at how stupid my posts were!


Dr. Feelgood.... You are an idiot!
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:03 PM
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nah i was pushing 1st and 20th fret in all of the pictures
I think what Roger meant is that the string is too low even though you are holding it down at both ends. Let me see if I can walk you through this....

I had you FRET the string at both ends of the neck for a good reason. By doing that, the string will want to be straight, right? So, what we are looking at is caled the "relief" of the neck. That is, how much does the neck bow? Almost all players want at least a small amount of bow - there will be a small gap between the string and the frets in the middle when you fret the string at both ends.
When you pluck a string, it actually rotates - it does not just move back and forth, or up and down. It rotates. There needs to be some sort of clearance to allow that to happen.
So, if the string is touching, as Roger says , it is too low, and the relief is likely too low.
Now, some folks say that the neck should be perfectly straight, and who am I to argue. Also, there can be some string buzz that does not matter too much through the amp. There is a ton that is up to personal taste. I am talking about some pretty generic stuff here.
Here's what I use to set the relief....
Get 2 business cards and stack them so you have a thickness of the 2 cards. Insert the stack of 2 cards just under the E, at the 7th or 8th fret, and then fret the string at both ends. Tip the bass up. The string should hold 2 strings. If it does not, then there is too much relief (too much bow), and you would tighten the truss rod a veeery small amount, wait about a half hour, and then try again until the string, when held at both ends, will hold the stack of 2 cards.
In your case, if there is no relief, we are already sure that it will, so start the opposite way....
Put just ONE card in, and fret the string at both ends. It should slide out!
If not, then there is not enough bow, and the truss rod should be loosened - again, just a veeery small amount, like an eighth of a turn. Let it sit for a while, and then check again.
Basically, you want to set the relief (bow) so that we hold 2 cards, but let one slide out.
Make sense?
So, check now with 2 cards and let us know how it looks.
It's tough to tell though from the pictures. Let's start by getting the relief set properly and see if that works out the buzz, then we can adjust string height, OK?
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From your last pic, it looks like the string is to low. I could be wrong though.
Too low? The string is a mile from the board. My guess is he switched from the stock 100,80,65,45 Fender strings that came with the bass and now went to a 45-105 or 50-105 set. You need to straighten your rod. A clockwise turn between a quarter to a half should do the trick.
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Too low? The string is a mile from the board. My guess is he switched from the stock 100,80,65,45 Fender strings that came with the bass and now went to a 45-105 or 50-105 set. You need to straighten your rod. A clockwise turn between a quarter to a half should do the trick.
Yeah, the first pictures do look like there is too much relief. I looked at the last photo though, and it does look like the string is touching the frets to me too. ANyhow, yes, the correct thing to do is to first set the relief - and that's what we're going for here.

Your advice is spot on.
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ahh thx for everyone who answered my question
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