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Old 11-25-2010, 10:37 AM
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Is the Bass Hi C the same as a Guitar Low E?

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As a four string player whos only a couple of times tried out a 6 string. I have a question. I tried searching here and googling but didnt find anything.

Is the high C on a six string, the same thickness as a low E on a guitar. Or actually would the high F on a 7 string bass be the same as a low E on a guitar?

Just wondering.
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Not sure what you mean there.

A bass is one octave lower than a guitar. A guitar's A is at 220 hz, a bass' is at 110, I think. so if you finger the second fret on the D string of a bas, you should have the lowest note on a eadgbe tuned guitar. You should be able to work out what you mean from there.
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My high C string is a .034 standard E on a guitar is .054 That is right in between my G and D strings in thickens.
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What I meant was what scott was getting at.

I was wondering hypothetically,

if I took a high C from a sixer bass and put it on a guitar as an E if theyd work exactly the same.

Basically the question is When does an extended range Bass guitar, delve into the realm of standard tuned and strung 6 string guitar? At the C string on a sixer? or at the f string on a seven string bass?
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A bass delves into the realm of a standard tuned and strung 6 string guitar at the second fret of the D string on a standard tuned bass. A 4 string bass will move into guitar range, not just an ERB.
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Old 11-25-2010, 11:32 AM
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no no. I dont think anyones getting my question. D string is still way thicker than any guitar strings and is discernible by site and feel as being a bass string.

Im asking if the the hi C or F strings for a sixer or seven bass have this same distinction, or do one of them have the possibility of being seen as a guitar string if you felt one of them and then felt and looked at a low E string from a guitar?


Does anyone get what I am trying to say?
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My high C string is a .034 standard E on a guitar is .054 That is right in between my G and D strings in thickens.
Standard low E on a guitar is actually .046. (.046-.010 for standard EADGBe tuning).

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You have very different fundamental characteristics going on.

Note for note, as stated above, you hit guitar frequencies at the second fret of your D string. But....

Bass tensions run to 40 pounds or higher even on the C string in a 6 string bass set. A guitar hovers around 20 to 22 pounds across the fret board.

Where bass meets guitar is on something other than a standard scaled instrument; a Bass VI comes to mind. On an instrument that is roughly 30" scale length you have a viable overlap between bass and guitar as gauges and tensions split the difference.

This is why multiscale basses and ERBs venture below (sometimes well below) 34" scale lengths.

This said, structurally a string is a string - if a guitar can handle the bass string's ball end it would function just fine on a guitar.
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The G for this pack of bass strings is lighter gauge than the E for the guitar strings. And if you go regular slinky for regular slinky the G is .50







Also to answer the original question: No the high C is not the same as the Low E... it's a lighter gauged string.
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Basically the question is When does an extended range Bass guitar, delve into the realm of standard tuned and strung 6 string guitar? At the C string on a sixer? or at the f string on a seven string bass?
The D-G-C strings on a standard tuned bass are the same pitch as the low three strings of a guitar tuned down a step(to D-G-C-F-A-D).


Though, the bass strings would be a bit thicker.




A bass's 045 G string is roughly equal to a guitars E in a light guage setup.
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however, due to the longer scale length, a bass string will still have a different make than a guitar string even thought the gauges may be different.

Ever notice how strings tend to get floppier if your scale gets shorter? Even though you still tune to E standard with a .105 gauge string the E will be much floppier.
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As a four string player whos only a couple of times tried out a 6 string. I have a question. I tried searching here and googling but didnt find anything.

Is the high C on a six string, the same thickness as a low E on a guitar. Or actually would the high F on a 7 string bass be the same as a low E on a guitar?

Just wondering.
I think that what he simply asked is: Can he take the thickest string from a guitar (the E) and use it as the thinnest string on his 6 string bass (C) or vise verse.

If the string is as long, same diameter, coils are the same as the material, then it is basically the same string just labeled high C for bass or low E for guitar.
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I think that what he simply asked is: Can he take the thickest string from a guitar (the E) and use it as the thinnest string on his 6 string bass (C) or vise verse.

If the string is as long, same diameter, coils are the same as the material, then it is basically the same string just labeled high C for bass or low E for guitar.
We understand his question and the answer is "maybe so". It's easy enough to check out; just look at the string diameters printed on the package. In general, bass scales are usually significantly longer than guitar, so they take heavier strings and higher tension to achieve the same pitch. If the high C on a particular set of bass strings happens to be the same diameter as the low E on a particular set of guitar strings, it's a coincidence. The guitar E string would probably be too short for the bass, anyway.
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KayXero,

Why do you want to know this? Surely, you're not planning to take a string off of your bass and put it on your guitar.
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The guitar E string would probably be too short for the bass, anyway.
Common guitar scales are 24 3/4" and 25 1/2". When you put on new strings, there might be an extra 6" you don't need, but not 10".
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Common guitar scales are 24 3/4" and 25 1/2". When you put on new strings, there might be an extra 6" you don't need, but not 10".
That's what I said, innit?
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That's what I said, innit?
Yup--just adding some trivia.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:22 PM
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A bass G string is usually .040, .045 or .050, electric guitar low E strings are usually .042 or .046.

So the answer is bass G is the same thickness as a guitar low E, but is usually at twice the tension.
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KayXero,

Why do you want to know this? Surely, you're not planning to take a string off of your bass and put it on your guitar.
haha not at all. Just curiosity and trying to learn more of the differences between guitar and bass.
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