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Old 07-02-2009, 08:39 PM
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BEADG to EADGC?

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Perhaps a dumb question, but I'm truly curious. I have a great Modulus Q5 with the low B. I've realized that I just don't use that low string all that often. Also, I've been expanding my slapping techniques and doing some composing which would benefit greatly from a high C.
My question: Would it be crazy to replace my strings with an EADGC set?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:40 PM
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Perhaps a dumb question, but I'm truly curious. I have a great Modulus Q5 with the low B. I've realized that I just don't use that low string all that often. Also, I've been expanding my slapping techniques and doing some composing which would benefit greatly from a high C.
My question: Would it be crazy to replace my strings with an EADGC set?
Thanks for the help!
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Not at all. This is almost as common of a tuning as BEADG. Our very own Janek Gwizdala has his Fodera tuned this way, and he turned out okay!

But a 6 string set, and leave out the B string. Maybe you will change your mind some day, and there you go, an extra B.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:49 PM
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not a dumb idea at all... ive been wanting to do it but never got around to it.
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Thanks. I think I'll give it a try. I've never swam in the world of the high C before. Should be fun.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:05 PM
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Just remember, its a bit different!
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:08 PM
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I just converted my fretless to EADGC. I needed a new nut.
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I just converted my fretless to EADGC. I needed a new nut.
New nut? Even though you were effectively reducing the gauge size of the strings? Is a snug fit the way to go?
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New nut? Even though you were effectively reducing the gauge size of the strings? Is a snug fit the way to go?
Yes. Because if the string is loose, the note will give an odd "droning" sound over the note.

The A string on my Geddy is like this, as the last owner strung it BEAD. The other strings are okay for now, but I have to get the nut replaced sometime soon.
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instead of EADGC try DGCFA#
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instead of EADGC try DGCFA#
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i run my 5 strings CGCFA# .105-.032

Makes sure when you tune your 5 to EADGC you get a 6 string set and toss the heavy low string. the tension of the heavy "b" string could be too much.
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Just screwing around

How about doing a GCFA#D# what string would accomodate that?
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a quick word of advice from someone who tried a ton of things before finding something that worked.....

definitely get the nut changed like has been mentioned here already. Not only will it drone if it's too loose like someone said on this thread, but if it's too tight tuning will be a real pain because the round wound strings will get caught up on the nut. This is especially true if you're using a hip shot on the low E string (which I highly recommend) as the string has to move more often and further than just tuning the instrument.

I would also pay attention to the amount of times that the low E gets wrapped around the post of the hip shot tuner. I have a hip shot tuner on the fodera that's made by a company called "hip shot" as far as I know, and because of all the extra machinery on the hip shot the post ends up being a lot shorter. So you end up dropping the hip shot down, playing a while, and then when you put it back up to the E it will tune up a little sharp if there are too many wrap arounds of the string on the post. The string will end up bunching up and be sharp. It's something I really dug into a lot and tried so many different hip shots, and have only come up with one solution so far: To make a tapered core string on the nut end of the instrument. That way you only wrap the string once around the post, AND it's a smaller gauge at that point because of the taper and it seems to solve the problem. One other thing I talked to vinnie fodera about the other day was having special posts made for the hip shot and then just replacing them by hand. That's obviously a special machining job and is a bit involved, but it certainly solves the problem on a long term basis.

Anyway, enough blabbering. Just some things I've come across with this tuning, and the use of a hip shot over the past couple of years,

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Old 07-04-2009, 06:35 PM
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I went to a DADGC tuning a short while back and it required a minor truss rod adjustment in addition to reworking the nut, but I haven't looked back either...
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I actually have my 5 tuned E-C after watching way too many Garrison and Feraud videos.

Love it.

I play a lot of chords, though, so.......

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Janek,

I envy your gear!

Great Playing BTW.
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Yes. Because if the string is loose, the note will give an odd "droning" sound over the note.

The A string on my Geddy is like this, as the last owner strung it BEAD. The other strings are okay for now, but I have to get the nut replaced sometime soon.
I change sets and tunings a lot. For years now, on two basses. The low-pitched slot might have 185 in it one day and 110 the next. Same with the rest of the slots. If you have good nut and good headstock angle (which is not a Fendr trait, and forget those string tree washers!) it works splendidly. Never had to change a nut out yet, other than the inital fileing to widen the slots for when I'm doing a low F# set.
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Thanks everybody. I was gonna try it on my pre-truss Modulus so there not much I can do in terms of a nut or neck adjustment. I'll keep yall posted.
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