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Old 03-18-2013, 08:34 AM
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best DR strings for tight punchy sound

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I am currently playing an American Jazz Deluxe with Samarium Noiseless Pickups on it. I have it strung up with Hi-Beams. I love the hi-beams, however, I find myself wanting a bit more punch to my sound. To my ears, they sound a bit mid-scooped. I don't think I have an EQ problem. I play mainly contemporary Christian and gospel. I play about 80% fingers, 15% slap, and 5% pick. I don't need super accentuated highs, especially because there are times we have no drummer. I do have to account for playing with a heavy handed pianist though

I want to stay with DR strings primarily as i have been very happy with their consistency.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:48 AM
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Sunbeams. Similar tension to HiBeams, but smoother feel, less highs, and way more mids. You can even build custom sets at www.bassstringsonline.com
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:52 AM
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Fat Beams might work as they will have a little bit more of a response in the low-mid frequency and will sound a bit better than Sunbeams for slap.

But then again when people use terms like tight and punchy I also have absolutely no clue what that means.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:59 AM
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Sunbeams. Similar tension to HiBeams, but smoother feel, less highs, and way more mids. You can even build custom sets at www.bassstringsonline.com
+1. Agreed.
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Fat Beams might work as they will have a little bit more of a response in the low-mid frequency and will sound a bit better than Sunbeams for slap.

But then again when people use terms like tight and punchy I also have absolutely no clue what that means.
You make a fair point. I guess I just felt like the high beams gave me plenty of high and lows. Lows were pretty big on the Hi Beams. I had no problems hearing myself in a mix, just was not getting any authority. I'm trying to find something between oowey gooey roundness and warmth and lots of stainless steel high end. I have a set of TI Flats that I love, but are a bit too round and undefined for my tastes, and trying to find something in DR that is in between. I have also quite enjoyed the round core construction on my Hi-beams.

Hope this clarifies, though I understand if it does not.
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:41 PM
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I'm trying to find something between oowey gooey roundness and warmth and lots of stainless steel high end.
Sunbeams have some extra nickel warmth and some nice midrange punch.
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I have a set of TI Flats that I love, but are a bit too round and undefined for my tastes, and trying to find something in DR that is in between.
Yep, Sunbeams again.
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I have also quite enjoyed the round core construction on my Hi-beams.
Guess what else has a round core? Sunbeams do, that's what.
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You need DR Low Rider stainless steel (not Nickel). They have a Hex core, unlike Sunbeams, Fat Beams and Hi Beams which have a ROUND core. Low Rider SS have a punchy forward midrange kick and a quick response which should really work well with the SC P/U's.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:03 PM
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I've got Nickle LO-Riders on my American Deluxe. Sounds awesome and the higher tension means less buzz if you like a lower action. Plenty of top end, good mids and a lot of solid bottom.
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Fat Beams and Sunbeams are both awesome. It comes down to the difference between SS and nickel, but I love both.
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+1 on the low riders. I swapped my low riders for new hi-beam 40-100. The thinner strings are nicer to play but I dumped them quick for my older low riders
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:28 AM
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Sadowsky Blue Label stainless steel are similar in brightness to DR Hi-Beams, but have a focus on mid range growl. They're also mid tension, given the hex core. Very high quality strings.
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You need DR Low Rider stainless steel (not Nickel). They have a Hex core, unlike Sunbeams, Fat Beams and Hi Beams which have a ROUND core. Low Rider SS have a punchy forward midrange kick and a quick response which should really work well with the SC P/U's.
Mr. Flash has read the OP accurately. For tightness and punch, the OP wants the stainless steel Lo-Riders.

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Old 03-20-2013, 03:48 PM
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Thanks Mystic. I've worked with many talented builders and musicians over the years... always glad to share any info that may help. Lo-Riders SS are a really cool string... I use them for quite a few of my basses.

P.S. That Blake quote is where Jim Morrison got the name for The Doors. It's one of my all-time faves!
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:54 PM
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I actually found Lo-Riders to be even more scooped than Hi-Beams. Maybe it was just on this particular bass. But yeah, I much prefer the Hi-Beams and would suggest Sunbeams before Lo-Riders.
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They won't admit to it, but Sunbeams are their Roundwound Fretless string. They have a colorful midrange, but not the punch as requested, then again, few Nickels do... SS/Hex Core is the way to go.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:34 PM
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You need DR Low Rider stainless steel (not Nickel). They have a Hex core, unlike Sunbeams, Fat Beams and Hi Beams which have a ROUND core. Low Rider SS have a punchy forward midrange kick and a quick response which should really work well with the SC P/U's.
This,

SS Lo Riders are my string of choice, and I am always looking for the exact tone you are going for.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:36 PM
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I've used dozens and dozens (and dozens) of strings over the years, and for S/Steel, I'm surprised that DR Lo Riders are not MORE popular with more players. They are UNIQUE not only in their sound but in their midrange response and attack. I use many different string types from several top manufacturers because they are all EXCELLENT at QC, customer service, innovation and execution of tonal goals. The BAD news: Different instruments can either EMPHASIZE, COMPLEMENT or COUNTERACT a string's characteristics. The GOOD news: Different instruments can EMPHASIZE, COMPLEMENT or COUNTERACT a string's characteristics. As a result, your options for finding YOUR best tone, feel, response and longevity are numerous if you have the patience (and the $) to try various strings on various instruments. All the info we share here on TB will help you to achieve that goal.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:39 PM
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Sadowsky Blue Label stainless steel are similar in brightness to DR Hi-Beams, but have a focus on mid range growl. They're also mid tension, given the hex core. Very high quality strings.
These are excellent strings. I tend to use Low Riders almost exclusively myself but tried the Sadowsky strings (both Blue and Black)... they definitely have midrange and tightness. If you want a tight fingerstyle funk they are excellent. Low Riders are a dash scooped and thin to me after using Sadowskly, but I prefer the Low Riders and their brightness for slapping and my edge-of-breakup overdrive tone. For a purely clean tone Sadowsky might be a dash better. They are not super bright, almost like nickel strings.

Blacks were... meh. They were about as bright as the Blues and just SUPER STIFF.
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SS Lo Riders are my string of choice, and I am always looking for the exact tone you are going for.
Many of the posters who are recommending Sunbeams, FatBeams and Hi-Beams are likely doing so from personal preference - not because they are heeding the OP's requirement for strings that are tight & punchy.

FWIW, I also use FatBeams, and like them a lot. But I reserve them for my fretless basses, because I reckon the looser round-core tension of those strings is better suited for fretless.

With only one exception, all my fretted basses wear stainless steel Lo-Riders - because I love the smooth yet snappy tone, and because I reckon the stiffer tension of the hex-core strings is better suited for fretted basses.

To be clear, Sunbeams, FatBeams & Hi-Beams are all somewhat tight & punchy. But not nearly as much as Lo-Riders...

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