C G C F tuning

[grooVWy]

Hi, I did the search and found few threads about this tuning.
Anyway. I´m looking to setup one of my axes for that for good.
And here are some string options I thought of:

DR Bootzilla´s [ 50-70-90-110 ] 31€
DR EH-50 Lo Rider [ 50-70-90-110 ] 37,90€
DR Black Beauties [ 50-70-90-110 ] 30€
ROTOSOUND Steve Harris SH77 [ 50-70-95-110 ] 39€
GHS 3045 H Boomers [ 50-70-95-115 ] 14,90€
EBS HB4 Northern Light [ 50-70-90-110 ] 36€
SKULL Bass [ 45-65-85-110 ] 42€
Curt Mangan Nickel Bass [ 50-70-90-110 ] 35€

Now, what do you guys think ? Is this gauge thick enough or should I proceed directly to "cables" department (65-130) ?
I only have experience from Rotosounds flats that were narrower than SH set and from DR low´s which I bot liked, but haven´t used them in this tuning though. Those Bootzillas are basically low riders am I correct ? Anyone have pros/cons on any of those strings ?

Even I like stainless strings the project that I´m setting up this bass would propably call some nickel or flats.

[THSL]

You could probably do the following:

.130/.085/.065/.050

.125/.085/.065/.050

.120/.080/.060/.045

I would recommend buying single strings if possible... You should also download the string tension chart from http://www.daddario.com so you can work out string tensions for particular tunings/scale lengths...

Tim

[grooVWy]

Originally Posted by THSL

You could probably do the following:

.130/.085/.065/.050

.125/.085/.065/.050

.120/.080/.060/.045

I would recommend buying single strings if possible... You should also download the string tension chart from http://www.daddario.com so you can work out string tensions for particular tunings/scale lengths...

Tim

I was considering buying single strings, but then if I adjust my bass to some set that can´t be found from "normal" sets I have to always buy my strings separately from the same place. I don´t know is that going to work too well if I´m for example on the road and need new strings and local shop doesn´t happend to have that kind of gauges in stock.
Thanks anyway. That tension chart was interesting.

[THSL]

I don't think you should have problem... You should experiment and find out what works for you, and then when you are getting ready to go on the road, get a few sets...

I don't play in standard tuning, and need to buy most of my strings in singles... I haven't had a problem yet...

If all else fails, I'm sure the music stores have singles for the .120-.130, and you could take the higher 3 strings of a 4 string set... Or buy a 5 string set and not use the E string...

[grooVWy]

I´ll go and check what brands the local shop carry.
I dig your tunes by the way.. with Har Ik Zehr.

[THSL]

Thanks so much, and good luck with the strings...

[fretlessguy]

I used the GHS set for DGCF experiment. A little too high tensioned, but it really sounded good and had no floppiness.

[Solarmist]

Thats how I have my Ibanez SR4 setup - CGCF. I've been using a set of SIT Powerwounds 45105 [45 / 65 / 85 / 105], and its OK, but it is floppier than I want. SIT said they would make a "special" set I could order from them at the local music store for the same price as a standard set (about $17) so I'm going .005 larger at 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 gauge. This should be about right being I like them in a little lower tension anyway. Here's a string tension guide you can compare types/gauges with.
http://www.daddario.com/Resources/JD...sion_chart.pdf

[grooVWy]

Originally Posted by fretlessguy

I used the GHS set for DGCF experiment. A little too high tensioned, but it really sounded good and had no floppiness.

I can imagine that 115 being quite high tensioned for D. I currently have that bass tuned DGCF with the Elixir set that came with it and I can live it with, but it´s a bit too sloppy. And when I drop the D to C it it goes to rubberband mode. I might try that GHS set, since it´s so cheap. But being so cheap makes me a bit worried about it´s quality as well. Perhaps I just test it cause it so cheap that I can live with it if it turns out being totally shyte.

[grooVWy]

Originally Posted by Solarmist

Thats how I have my Ibanez SR4 setup - CGCF. I've been using a set of SIT Powerwounds 45105 [45 / 65 / 85 / 105], and its OK, but it is floppier than I want. SIT said they would make a "special" set I could order from them at the local music store for the same price as a standard set (about $17) so I'm going .005 larger at 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 gauge. This should be about right being I like them in a little lower tension anyway. Here's a string tension guide you can compare types/gauges with.
http://www.daddario.com/Resources/JD...sion_chart.pdf

I´m having a quite strong feeling that 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 set might work with my playing style. But never know before trying stuff. I just wouldn´t want to adjust bass to 130 set just to realize it was too thick afterall.

[Dave Siff]

I tune DGCF with a set of La Bella Hard Rockin' Steels that are built specifically for that tuning. The gauges are .054-.075-.090-.111. You could tune the D string down to C, or get a custom-gauge C string. I'd think .120 or thereabouts would be the number, but La Bella could probably tell you more precisely.

[grooVWy]

Originally Posted by Dave Siff

I tune DGCF with a set of La Bella Hard Rockin' Steels that are built specifically for that tuning. The gauges are .054-.075-.090-.111. You could tune the D string down to C, or get a custom-gauge C string. I'd think .120 or thereabouts would be the number, but La Bella could probably tell you more precisely.

I´ll check them out. Cheers. It´s hard to find all brands from where I live that´s why I have to ask stupid questions like this

[Dave Siff]

I've never seen that particular set in a store, but you can get them here.

[Solarmist]

Originally Posted by grooVWy

I´m having a quite strong feeling that 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 set might work with my playing style. But never know before trying stuff. I just wouldn´t want to adjust bass to 130 set just to realize it was too thick afterall.

If you were gonna go that thick - you could just get a 5 string set, and throw away the "G" string. I'm just going to use 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 so I don't have to mess up my nut + I like lower tension/lighter gauge anyway - its easier to bend the strings too. If you read the tension chart I showed you - you'll see these are a pretty close match for "normal" tension with the drop tuning.

[grooVWy]

Originally Posted by Solarmist

If you were gonna go that thick - you could just get a 5 string set, and throw away the "G" string.

I know, but I propably am not going to go there.

Originally Posted by Solarmist

I'm just going to use 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 so I don't have to mess up my nut + I like lower tension/lighter gauge anyway - its easier to bend the strings too. If you read the tension chart I showed you - you'll see these are a pretty close match for "normal" tension with the drop tuning.

Yeah I checked the chart. It´s just that numbers aren´t the same than actual feeling with strings attatched to instrument. I can use "normal" sets to flat tuning, but when I drop to C that thickest string gets spaghetti.

[The BurgerMeister]

Originally Posted by Solarmist

If you were gonna go that thick - you could just get a 5 string set, and throw away the "G" string.

one of my Jazzes is tuned in C-G-C-F, and this is exactly what i do. i've tried with GHS heavies (50-115), but they were still too floppy and the tone just wasn't there. now, i'm doing 65-125, and it's fantastic.

at first, i was getting custom sets of Sunbeams from DR through work, and, barring the fact that i had to keep ordering them, i was as happy as a clam. these days, i'm using the Dunlop nickel-plated strings (which i like just as much), as they're more readily available.

FYI: ordering custom sets through DR is easy. you just have to make sure they make the strings you want in the gauges you're looking for (check on their site), then hit up a dealer and have them order you a couple sets. though there is no advertised price for custom sets, you can work out a "custom-set price" with the dealer.
have fun!

[grooVWy]

Originally Posted by The BurgerMeister

one of my Jazzes is tuned in C-G-C-F, and this is exactly what i do. i've tried with GHS heavies (50-115), but they were still too floppy and the tone just wasn't there. now, i'm doing 65-125, and it's fantastic.

at first, i was getting custom sets of Sunbeams from DR through work, and, barring the fact that i had to keep ordering them, i was as happy as a clam. these days, i'm using the Dunlop nickel-plated strings (which i like just as much), as they're more readily available.

FYI: ordering custom sets through DR is easy. you just have to make sure they make the strings you want in the gauges you're looking for (check on their site), then hit up a dealer and have them order you a couple sets. though there is no advertised price for custom sets, you can work out a "custom-set price" with the dealer.
have fun!

DR Strings are insanely pricey at Finland where I live. (as are all bass strings), So i doubt that I will go and order any custom sets from local shops.
I´m going to start with thinner gauges and work my way up, so I wont file my saddle too much too hasty.