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nukes_da_bass 12-31-2012 07:05 AM

Chromes or TI flats?
 
Hi,
I just acquired a Veilette fretless arch top 5 string used and I absolutely love it!

I'm not loving the Labella Nylon Tapes however, at all. The B, E, and A are great but the D and G did not cut through at band practice at all. Even with the tone knob dimed!

I'm thinking Chromes Vs. TI Flats. I've used TI flats in the distant past and was bummed out that I couldn't get them to sound "vintage" at all. I do want a low tension flat for this bass, however.

Any ideas would be welcome!

backup 12-31-2012 07:14 AM

try the low gauge chromes they are pretty loose.

Gasman 12-31-2012 07:14 AM

I'd try Labellas or Roto's. Labellas will have a pretty high tension, though, just like the chromes will. I personally like TI's as well, but it you want the "vintage" sound the Labellas are probably going to be your best bet.

donk 12-31-2012 07:34 AM

You might look into GHS flats. Not too stiff feeling and great sounding.

nukes_da_bass 12-31-2012 08:24 AM

Hadn't considered roto jazz... Great string but I wouldn't consider it low tension! Still tempting....

jallenbass 12-31-2012 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donk (Post 13647774)
You might look into GHS flats. Not too stiff feeling and great sounding.

Agree. They are the only strings that never get lost in the mix for me.

nukes_da_bass 01-01-2013 03:59 AM

I went with Chromes. Due to scheduling issues, the first time I will be able to plug in with these strings will be about 9am.
I love the feel, and they sound good unplugged on a Quasi Hollow bass like this Veilette.
I really hated the tape wound. They just felt WRONG to my fingers!
One mans pleasure is another mans poison.

pauliebass 01-01-2013 04:19 AM

I found I overplayed TI's. As a DB player, I'm not trying to tickle the strings. They truly are great strings though. Chromes are my favorite right now. They break in nicely but keep a little edge for a flat. Tons of mwah for a fretless.

nukes_da_bass 01-01-2013 08:00 AM

Ok I just got to plug in for a few minutes- I'm digging these Chromes with the tone rolled off! Overall, I dig the bass with the tone rolled back and more piezo than magnetic pickup in the blend-I DID buy it to get as much upright sound as possible after all!

ScottTunes 01-01-2013 08:15 PM

I'm here to plug the string I love to hate, and hate to love. There are few among "us" that like this "premium" string...

Pyramid flats are a chrome nickel flat wound, like TI flats, but with just the right amount of tension, and fuller tone. It can take a bit of fussing to get a complete set that works (such is the love/hate of the Pyramid experience), but once settled, they sound AND feel great! Nothing else compares (IME/IMO).

D'Addario Chromes (stainless) flats are nice, but sound more like RWs than flats. The chrome "feel" is very nice!

LaBellas are nice (also stainless), but have higher tension... Plus there's a definite difference in tone from the Pyramids - mostly due to stainless vs nickel (respectively).

I found, especially for "The Beatle Bass" that the Hofner/Pyramid strings not only lasted longer, without tonal changes, they didn't stress the neck like LaBella flats did...

I find it odd that LaBella claims the James Jamerson connection... Jamerson supposedly bought a new Fender Precision bass, and never changed his strings... Did LaBella manufacture Fender's flat wound strings at that time??? If not, what's the connection???

Bottom line (pun considered) is, if you like TI flats, you will appreciate the Pyramids! Once you have a good set, they will also out-last the TI set (again, YMMV), making the seemingly exorbitant price worthy.

Happy hunting!

ScottTunes 01-01-2013 08:19 PM

By the way, Carol Kaye says TI flats are the bomb!

atomicdog 01-01-2013 08:35 PM

Pyramid Golds. Higher tension than either the Chromes or TIs, IMO, and more pleasant to play.

JimmyM 01-01-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottTunes (Post 13655372)
I find it odd that LaBella claims the James Jamerson connection... Jamerson supposedly bought a new Fender Precision bass, and never changed his strings... Did LaBella manufacture Fender's flat wound strings at that time??? If not, what's the connection???

Jamerson immediately took the Fenders off any bass he bought and put LaBellas on them.

Frenchy-Lefty 01-01-2013 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jallenbass (Post 13648094)
Agree. They are the only strings that never get lost in the mix for me.

Same here

dannybuoy 01-02-2013 04:00 AM

Pyramids and TIs for me too! Although I have found that I once got a really dead sounding E on a set of Pyramids once but my supplier swapped me for a new set so no big deal!

I found Chromes too stiff and bright, lost patience trying to break them in. Chromes and LaBellas feel much stickier than the Pyramid Golds and TIs which both play like they've been dipped in oil in comparison!

nukes_da_bass 01-02-2013 06:23 AM

I love Pyramid Golds too! Somewhere, in this House Where I Never Find Anything, I have a custom wound 5 string set I had made for my Certainbass 5. However, my life is run by 3 Filipino women who hide everything from me except basses, amps.
Someday my band will get permanent practice space and I will keep EVERYTHING there (including clothes these women don't like lol!)

gary m 01-02-2013 10:00 AM

Pyramids for my Hofner. Everything else gets GHS Precision Flats.

bassbully 01-02-2013 10:54 AM

No matter if you go TI or chromes you must let them break in and age to get the true tone out of them .With TI's it took 5 basses and about a year to get it right for me.

ScottTunes 01-04-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomicdog (Post 13655460)
Pyramid Golds. Higher tension than either the Chromes or TIs, IMO, and more pleasant to play.

Chromes = highest tension (of 3 mentioned)
Pyramids = medium tension (and need no break-in period)
TI Jazz flats = lowest tension

Last 2 are the only nickel flats I've used, and prefer over stainless.

The Pyramids DO feel like they were dipped in oil! Very smooth and silky (almost slippery)! IME/IMO/YMMV, of course.

ScottTunes 01-04-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyM (Post 13655985)
Jamerson immediately took the Fenders off any bass he bought and put LaBellas on them.

JimmyM, where did you "learn" of this?

Not that I'm any expert on Jamerson (I just love his playing an sound!), but I'd not heard this heretofore...


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