D'addario Chromes Not Compatible w/ Stingray's tuning peg???!!!

[Modern Growl]

Weirdest thing in the world! 3 sets in a row this happened!

The G string will not "catch" onto the tuning peg!!! What's noteworthy is that the other strings, E,A, & D all are fine, but the G string just wont "catch" and "lock" onto the tuning peg!

After two sets, (doing everything properly, leaving about 3 inches past the tuing peg to wind twice around the peg, bending string an cutting at a crimp ect... everyhing!) I carefully watched what was happening while very slowly tightening the string. The flat ribbon pulls off the core like a sleeve. I don't know if it has something to do with the direction the sting is wound, not being a good match w/ a treble side tuning peg being wound clockwise? I'm guessing that's it, because all of the other tuning pegs are bass side, and wound counterclockwise.

What can be done? I've never had this problem w/ Rounds, just these flats!

[jamesblue]

You could weld it, break out the arc welder!!
Mabe a sperezel (spelling) tunning peg, you know the one that like locks in the string and you just do like a half turn, had them on a Carvin I had and they worked well.

[TrooperFarva]

Try this

String problem/solution (Elixirs)

[bassmonkeee]

Um....I've got a set of Chromes on my 5 string Bongo, which has the exact same tuning pegs as a Stingray, and I know that AussieMark uses Chromes on his Musicman basses without a problem.

So, they are definitely compatible with the tuning pegs.

Why would the string care which way the tuning peg was turned??!?


Sounds like a case of operator error to me.

Did you stick the string in the hole at the center of the peg and wind it top down?

[xshawnxearthx]

dont cut your g string to short and there will not be a problem. i have chromes on my ray right now. no problemo

[Micolao]

2 sets of chromes in 2 days and two different problems..

the first one had dameged E string...
and today the sampe problem of this 3d..

[jasper383]

I had this problem twice before as well on my Stingray, but only putting Chromes on a bass after they had been on another bass.

The G string just wouldn't tune to pitch, and the outer sleeve was pulling off the core.

In both cases, I tossed the strings.

I might suggest leaving a lot more string on the tuner, not cutting it off at 3 inches.

[Juniorkimbrough]

if you think about it a lot of hollowbody's have the 2+2 tuning peg setup and I'm sure a lot of people use Chromes on them, so i don't think it's the way the tuner turns.

[Showdown]

I have the same problem on my G&L L2000, and it affects the A, D and G sometimes. I haven't used Chromes on it, but it does it with other strings. Strings without silk are the worst, but it still does it on strings with silk. It is an '86 and has the old style G&L tuners with the tapered post. It seems to me that the hole in the middle for the string is bigger than on other tuners, so maybe that is it. I'm thinking about replacing them with Hipshot tuners.

What I do when I have the problem is bend the string at the tip about 1/4" and fold it back (squeezing it with pliers). That makes the end that goes into the hole twice as big. It may not be the best thing for the string, but it does work. Another idea I just had is to insert a toothpick or something similar into the hole with the string to wedge it in. I think I'll try that next time.

[can you hear me]

I've had this on my SR 4 with at least 3 different manufacturers sets of strings. Saw something in a
DR packet once that with some modern strings they have to be bent at a minimum 45 degrees below where you want to cut. Something to do with the core of the strings. Did this and had no problems, might be worth trying. BTW, this has happened more with coated strings, next coated strings I get I will probably not cut the G at all.

[Micolao]

D'addario sent me a return authorization but they need to know the "Q code" of the ECB81 set of chromes...
can anyone help me find it?

[mutedeity]

I get this all the time with my Musicman and I use only roundwounds. TroopFarva's suggestion looks like a winner. What I do though is bend the end of my g string and push it into the hole like that. It works for me every time.

[csala]

I thought I was the only one who dealt with this. Cool, I'm not crazy, though the guy at GC thought I was.

[Micolao]

I really want to thanks here D'Addario Customer care and Mark Roldan, (he's been very kind and professional).
I'm having this set of strings changed by them in a few days.
Great service.
I'm very happy with them and i want to share my totally positive experience.
Thanks again.

thumbs UP!!!

[saxofunk]

Maybe I'm nuts. I wrap manually from the bottom up 3-4 times, bend them sharply into the slot, then release them and use pliers to bend a stub to go into the hole. Then I insert that little stub into the hole and tighten everything up with a string winder. I just installed set of Chromes on a 2+2 headstock that way without a problem.

On all strings - bend them shaprly before cutting, that should keep the wraps on the core.

The idea of locking the string or going clockwise then counterclockwise (or vice versa) is a good idea too.

[rbrown13]

Originally Posted by TrooperFarva

Try this

String problem/solution (Elixirs)

that is the answer, the problem is the EB tuners are very smooth on the sides of the slot add to that a smooth string with silks and you have slippage, this technique comes from the old fender (Kluson) reverse tuners.

[Sean Baumann]

I had this problem with chromes on my stingray 5. I called D'Addario and complained, the guy I spoke with was very nice. He explained that for the flats, you need to wrap them once arond the peg the wrong way (well, around the peg 1/2 way) guide the string back through the slot and then continue winding as normal. Worked like a champ.

PS. I can't stand the musicman tuners, they really annoy me with that taper.