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uOpt 01-28-2014 04:07 PM

Dean Markley spec mess
 
Can somebody give an update on the base specs on Dean Markley strings?

They have a set named "roundcore" which obviously is round core, and probably nickel plated steel (nps).

Then there is "super round" which according to BSO are round core and stainless steel (ss).

They have the "blue steel" (cyro treated) in both ss and nps, presumably with a hex core?

The "nickelsteel" (on guitar my favorites except for the gauge choices) and obviously nps and presumably hex core?

There there is "helix" (their twisted thing) in both nps and ss, is that hex core?

Finally the SR2000s which are tapered at the bridge and sound-wise obviously SS.

Or as a table:
Code:

DM roundcore            round  nps
DM super round          round  ss?
DM bluesteel            hex?    ss?    cyro treated
DM bluesteel nps        hex?    nps    cyro treated
DM helix SS            hex?    ss      twisted
DM helix NPS            hex?    nps    twisted
DM nickelsteel          hex?    nps    my guitar equivalent
DM sr2000s              hex?    ss      bridge taper

Does this look correct?

I really don't like these puzzles. One of the strongest reasons why I often end up with DR is that they clearly state what you get. (except DR has messy naming)

JustForSport 01-28-2014 04:47 PM

You're correct on the round-cores, also, NPS are round-core,
and Helix are hex-core, side-to-side compression wound.
Don't know about the others.

SLaPiNFuNK 01-28-2014 06:57 PM

Everything hex except for the nps round core.

Super rounds are discontinued


On their site they have some incorrect gauges for what is actually in the sets. Specifically on the helix light sets

mmbongo 01-28-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt (Post 15444287)
(except DR has messy naming)

Not really.

Beams = round core.
Riders = hex core.
ExtraLife= round core.

Can't get much simpler :)

SLaPiNFuNK 01-28-2014 07:22 PM

Pretty much everyone just makes hex core...

Except:

DR - Hi-Beams / SunBeams / NEON and Extra Life
Dean Markley NPS Round Core
Fodera Stainless Steel or Nickel
__ _____ = New set coming soon
Thomastik-Infeld = Jazz Flats / Jazz Rounds

hehe ;)

GK Growl 01-28-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK (Post 15445132)
__ _____ = New set coming soon

Now I'm curious! No hints?

uOpt 01-28-2014 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmbongo (Post 15445054)
Not really.

Beams = round core.
Riders = hex core.
ExtraLife= round core.

Can't get much simpler :)

Yeah but for the ss/nps one it gets messy. For the round cores they have different names for ss and nps (sunbeams, hi-beams).

For hex cores they use the same name for ss and nps, lo-riders. You can see people on this very forum mix them up all the time, but of course there is a large difference.

Besides, there really is nothing "lo" about strings that have a hex core and SS windings.

mmbongo 01-28-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt (Post 15445331)
Yeah but for the ss/nps one it gets messy. For the round cores they have different names for ss and nps (sunbeams, hi-beams).

For hex cores they use the same name for ss and nps, lo-riders. You can see people on this very forum mix them up all the time, but of course there is a large difference.

Besides, there really is nothing "lo" about strings that have a hex core and SS windings.

Technically they are called Nickel Lo Riders and Steel Lo Riders, so no confusion there :)

They are called Lo Riders because you can lower them way down on the fretboard without buzzing...like a Low Rider on the road! This is because of the hex core, which all 'Riders' have.

Yeah perhaps it could be simpler :)

uOpt 01-31-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmbongo (Post 15445396)
Technically they are called Nickel Lo Riders and Steel Lo Riders, so no confusion there :)

They are called Lo Riders because you can lower them way down on the fretboard without buzzing...like a Low Rider on the road! This is because of the hex core, which all 'Riders' have.

Yeah perhaps it could be simpler :)

Actually it is worse. I just spotted that with guitar strings DR is using the term "hi-beams" for "nps on hex", although in bass it means "ss on round".

I want to slap somebody in there silly :)

uOpt 01-31-2014 07:15 AM

Did anybody try the Nickelsteel?

As mentioned in the other thread, I think I won't explore regular nickel plated steel wound strings anymore. However, I wonder whether Dean Markley's Nickelsteel are really just vanilla nps-on-hex or something special?

I'd like to try them because Mike Mills is said to use them, but if they sound just like all the other nps-on-hex there is no point.

SLaPiNFuNK 01-31-2014 08:52 AM

Believe it or not the nickel steels are on their best seller lists. I don't sell that many of them but over the last few days some have been selling.


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