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Old 01-15-2007, 08:34 PM
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DR Hi-beam Flats VS TI Jazz flats

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I dont know if this has been discussed before.

Im currently using TI jazz flats and they sound/feel really nice.

I use to play with DR hi-beam roundwounds and I was wondering how the flatwound versions stack up/compare to the TIJF's.

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Old 01-16-2007, 10:28 AM
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The lack of response piques my curiosity.

I might have to track down a set of these strings... In the spirit of exploration.

Any idea how much they cost at least? or where they could perhaps be purchased?
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:20 PM
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www.juststrings.com lists them, but I think they're still kind of in short supply so they may be out from time to time. A few people here were having trouble finding them in stock at various locations because they were selling out.
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They're not cheap. You can find them at Juststrings.com , though. Think the additional expense of flats+the additional cost of DRs, and you end up with a $40 pack of strings. They'll probably last forever, though.

Although there was a huge amount of hubbub on this site when the Hi-Beam flats were announced and released, the supply of them apparently isn't all that great, so not many people got their sets very quickly. Add that to the high cost and near-total lack of reviews, and it's understandable that many people have bought them.

They cost nearly as much as TIs, but don't have the fan base or history of them, just the DR name and a few hypothetically good traits (made by DR, round core).

I'm not badmouthing them, as I'd really like to try a set myself, I'm just offering up reasons why nobody's biting the bait yet.

Although one or two people have reviewed them:

New DR Hi-Beams Flatwounds!

Anyone tried DR High Beam Flats?

You might want to PM them to see how they've aged. The strings, that is.

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Old 01-16-2007, 12:31 PM
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I have tried both. The DR flats are very new, and supply has been an issue.

They are totally different. The DR flats are much like the old school flats; high tension, thump. A little more sustain than Fender flats, less than D'Addario Chromes.
TI flats are unlike any other flat, or string for that matter, I have experienced. Loose tension, super slinky, very very close to an upright sound.
Try both, they are both excellent.
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Yea ive had a set backorderd from juststrings.com since mid december.
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Bumping this thread, curious if anyone's done a recent comparison?
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Bumping this thread, curious if anyone's done a recent comparison?
Irony of ironies, but I'm bumping this thread because I've done a recent comparison even though the request for a recent comparison is now quite dated.

In any event, I've now compared the two.

Quick background - I've had my first Stambaugh for almost two years now. It's a fretted 4 string with an Audere pre and Nordstrand Fat Stacks. I've always dug it but I've been looking for the right set of strings for it forever.

It came with SITs (Rock Brights maybe?) which I didn't care for and then I went through Slinkys, Hi-Beams, Roto 66s and then Sunbeams. I decided to try flats on it and being a big DR guy, I tried their flats. Now I've got some TIJFs on it just starting to break in.

I generally try a few different sets on every bass until I find just the right strings and the TIs are THE string for this bass.

As for the DR Hi-beam flats - they are super thumpy. Thumpier than the Labellas I have on my P-bass (well it might as well be my old guitar player's P-bass at this point since it lives in his studio) and I'm considering trying them on that bass just to be sure. But they don't have a lot of character beyond that. Unlike the LaBellas or TIJFs which settle as time goes on, the Hi-Beams have a very old school sound right out of the box and haven't changed noticeably in the time I've had them on (a few months).

As for tension, based on some comments here on TB I was afraid both might be unplayable - the DRs because the tension was too high and the TIs because the tension was too low. I've come to realize that tension just doesn't seem to matter too much to me.

The DRs might have more tension than the old LaBellas on my P-bass but they are more flexible in terms of bending etc, at least to me, possibly because of their core. And again, the TIs aren't (at least to me) the "rubber bands" that people make them out to be. Each requires a slight adjustment in technique, but going directly from one to the other didn't seem like a big deal at all.

The DRs are absolutely the "smoothest" strings I've ever played and it makes quick runs almost effortless. But ultimately, they just didn't have a "rich" enough tone for me.

The TIJFs on the other hand, are somewhat thumpy but have a lot more going on in terms of tone. They also are much higher output. I guess the string composition makes a difference, because my bass is noticeably louder than when I played the DRs.

Having gone from Sunbeams to DR Flats to TIJFs I can say that the TIs are very different from the DR Flats and are actually closer in tone to the Sunbeams, but still distinctly different. They are really even sounding from string to string and still have more "heft" than rounds.

I haven't tried them on any other bass, but they are absolutely perfect on my Stambaugh which is used primarily for dub, funk and some jazz-pop stuff. I really dig them.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:44 PM
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Irony of ironies, but I'm bumping this thread because I've done a recent comparison even though the request for a recent comparison is now quite dated.

In any event, I've now compared the two.

Quick background - I've had my first Stambaugh for almost two years now. It's a fretted 4 string with an Audere pre and Nordstrand Fat Stacks. I've always dug it but I've been looking for the right set of strings for it forever.

It came with SITs (Rock Brights maybe?) which I didn't care for and then I went through Slinkys, Hi-Beams, Roto 66s and then Sunbeams. I decided to try flats on it and being a big DR guy, I tried their flats. Now I've got some TIJFs on it just starting to break in.

I generally try a few different sets on every bass until I find just the right strings and the TIs are THE string for this bass.

As for the DR Hi-beam flats - they are super thumpy. Thumpier than the Labellas I have on my P-bass (well it might as well be my old guitar player's P-bass at this point since it lives in his studio) and I'm considering trying them on that bass just to be sure. But they don't have a lot of character beyond that. Unlike the LaBellas or TIJFs which settle as time goes on, the Hi-Beams have a very old school sound right out of the box and haven't changed noticeably in the time I've had them on (a few months).

As for tension, based on some comments here on TB I was afraid both might be unplayable - the DRs because the tension was too high and the TIs because the tension was too low. I've come to realize that tension just doesn't seem to matter too much to me.

The DRs might have more tension than the old LaBellas on my P-bass but they are more flexible in terms of bending etc, at least to me, possibly because of their core. And again, the TIs aren't (at least to me) the "rubber bands" that people make them out to be. Each requires a slight adjustment in technique, but going directly from one to the other didn't seem like a big deal at all.

The DRs are absolutely the "smoothest" strings I've ever played and it makes quick runs almost effortless. But ultimately, they just didn't have a "rich" enough tone for me.

The TIJFs on the other hand, are somewhat thumpy but have a lot more going on in terms of tone. They also are much higher output. I guess the string composition makes a difference, because my bass is noticeably louder than when I played the DRs.

Having gone from Sunbeams to DR Flats to TIJFs I can say that the TIs are very different from the DR Flats and are actually closer in tone to the Sunbeams, but still distinctly different. They are really even sounding from string to string and still have more "heft" than rounds.

I haven't tried them on any other bass, but they are absolutely perfect on my Stambaugh which is used primarily for dub, funk and some jazz-pop stuff. I really dig them.

I've got TI flats on four basses -- my Fender 57 AV P-bass, 62 AV Jazz bass, 08 P-fiver, and Epiphone Jack Casady.

I've got DR Hi-Beam flats on just one bass -- my Fender CS 59 P-bass.

While I love the TI flats, recent studio work has me using the bass with the DR flats because (I found) they puch through the mix better, being more percussive I guess. The TIs were getting burried.

So I guess what I'm learning is to keep my options open. I'd rather have TIs on every bass I own but I need more thump sometimes.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:46 AM
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Yeah, I always keep my options open with strings. That said, I really like the feel and playability of the DR Flats but they weren't right for that bass. My fretted Stammie cuts through like a hot knife through butter. It's basically got a super jazz bass tone but it always seemed almost too bright and cutting with rounds which is why I went to flats. The DRs took too much of that character away. The Thomastiks are perfect.

But as I said, I really want to try the DR Hi-Beam flats on my old P-bass to compare against the LaBellas.
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