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07-19-2011, 11:56 AM
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any recorded examples of a Jazz bass with flats? would love to hear some great tone with flats and a Jazz bass...
who played/plays a Jazz with flats? |
07-19-2011, 11:58 AM
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07-19-2011, 01:50 PM
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07-19-2011, 04:31 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Illinois | | | Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden used a Jazz bass w/ flats for a long time. If you listen to Badmotorfinger and Superunknown, those would be good examples. |
07-19-2011, 07:15 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | Everything Joe Osborn recorded. That's a 1960 Jazz bass with the same set of LaBella flats for the entire recording career. Google Joe and check out his discography. Some of it includes:
"Aquarius- Let the Sunshine In" by The 5th Dimension
"Bridge Over Troubled Waters", "Only Livin' Boy In New York", "America", "Cecilia" by Simon & Garfunkle
Another example would be Jerry Jemmott's work with King Curtis as jallenbass linked. Get the live Aretha Franklin album recorded at the Fillmore. That's Jemmott with King Curtis' All Stars, his Jazz bass, old flatwound LaBellas, and an Acoustic amp. And that Jazz bass/flats is also on Aretha's version of "The Weight" (which also features a killer Duane Allman slide part), "Think", and several other middle-period Aretha.
And, search the strings forum. There was another thread about a year ago I think for exactly this. Tons of suggestions there, and some that surprised me.
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07-19-2011, 10:39 PM
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07-19-2011, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by raul 
who played/plays a Jazz with flats?
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07-19-2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton Didn't J.P. Jones use flats? I'm askin'. | IIRC, most of Zoso was recorded with JPJ using Roto 77's and his Jazz.
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07-20-2011, 12:01 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | JPJ claims that he never used flats for Zeppelin stuff.
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07-20-2011, 12:10 AM
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07-20-2011, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by old-fashioned | This is just all-time get on your knees and weep reggae tone (headphones required for these youtube clips). Fat but clear, punchy, articulate, gritty but smooth, vocal and extremely expressive. I've had the sublime experience of hearing this exact tone reproduced perfectly live on a Nexus line array PA at very high SPL, in a great clean mix. ‪Burning Spear - Call On You‬‏ - YouTube
There is finesse and delicacy in a J with flats that makes it an extremely expressive instrument in the right hands.
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07-20-2011, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM JPJ claims that he never used flats for Zeppelin stuff. | I honestly don't think he remembers what he used when anymore. Contemporary interviews don't jive with his recent interviews, for example.
Early Zep sure sounds like flats to me, but who knows? |
07-20-2011, 07:04 AM
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How about Noel Redding with the Jimi Hendrix Experience?
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07-20-2011, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by billgwx I thought JPJ used rounds too.
How about Noel Redding with the Jimi Hendrix Experience? | Noel would have used rounds, Rotosound RS-66. He and Hendrix went to a Who concert. Jimi heard Entwistle's sound and said that's the sound he wanted. That led to Redding getting the Jazz, Rotos, and Sunn amps.
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07-20-2011, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM JPJ claims that he never used flats for Zeppelin stuff. | Ah. I was really only guessing, as it sounded like flats to me, but I wasn't sure. Thanks, JM (et al) for clearing up a long held miscocnception.
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07-20-2011, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by One Drop I honestly don't think he remembers what he used when anymore. Contemporary interviews don't jive with his recent interviews, for example.
Early Zep sure sounds like flats to me, but who knows? | OK, now I'm confused again. 
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07-20-2011, 10:49 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | It sounds like flats on the first 2 albums to me, too, but definitely rounds from III onward. Still, I think it's entirely possible he's using rounds on those first 2 albums, since he's most definitely using them on the live album "The Song Remains The Same" and the bass sounds pretty similar to the first two albums when they play a song from those albums.
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07-20-2011, 12:02 PM
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TBH, I tend to agree with One Drop on not remembering what was used when, string-wise.
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