Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Strings [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-27-2010, 10:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Supporting Member
Are flats good for slap?

Sign in to disble this ad
HEllo guys. I wanna try flats on my Ibanez SR 5005 but are they good for slap? What do u guys recomend? Should I buy a Fender pbass or MM StingRay and use flats on them? Thanks
  #2  
Old 03-27-2010, 10:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: AZ
Well, alot of people here on TB LOVE flats, but I personally don't like the sound...
here's a video w/ some flatwound slap. You can find more on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y38C30bleOI
__________________
Traben Club #51 Praise & Worship #617 AZ Bands #3
  #3  
Old 03-27-2010, 11:00 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Texas
Only if you like upright slap tone.
  #4  
Old 03-27-2010, 11:00 PM
Matt R.'s Avatar
BassMonkey
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Huntsville AL
Send a message via Skype™ to Matt R.
Supporting Member
Check out the chorus of "Peg" by Steely Dan. Therein lies the answer to your question.

Which incidentally is: "Why, yes, flats rule for slap."
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anesthesia View Post
enjoy your metaphorical chocolate.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Ross/1533401450

www.mattrisme.tumblr.com

www.twitter.com/ReallyMattRoss
  #5  
Old 03-28-2010, 06:28 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: England
No .

If you want a typical slap tone like Flea, Miller, Wooten, Claypool etc (not suggesting to copy them, just a similar sound), forget flats. You can slap them of course but it wont sound anything like "normal" slap. Some strings will be better for it, but they always sound different.
__________________
British Bassist #94
  #6  
Old 03-28-2010, 09:18 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: California
I wouldn't recommend flats for slap when you have a high output active bass like your Ibanez. Slapping and popping with flats on an active bass will just sound like really REALLY crappy, dead round wounds. IMO you need a passive bass to get a "good" passive slap tone and even then it's not gonna be like Flea or Miller.
__________________
Gallien-Krueger Club #606
  #7  
Old 03-28-2010, 12:12 PM
Kael's Avatar
Don't give a damn about my bad reputation
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oklahoma City
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plstrns View Post
Only if you like upright slap tone.


Flats or rounds is irrelevant. Upright slap sounds nothing like slap on a bass guitar.
__________________
Poll, schmoll. You can use statistics to prove anything. 67% of people know that.
  #8  
Old 03-28-2010, 12:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Theres been atleast two threads about this same topic very recently, check the search engine for some useful info. Flats can be great for slap but it is a very different sound than slapping with rounds. It all
really depends on howyou like your slap tone. I personally love
both.
  #9  
Old 03-28-2010, 12:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Eastern Wisconsin
I've never heard flats do a good slap sound. But then, I'm not sure I've ever really heard rounds do a good slap sound, either. Overall, though, flats beat the heck out of rounds.
__________________
Lefty Union #203, SX Club Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by SurferJoe46
Bass tone isn't rocket surgery anyway.
  #10  
Old 03-28-2010, 12:57 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Somewhere in Canada
Yeah depends what kind of slap tone you want.

For Marcus Miller or Victor Wooten slap, or your standard slap tone, you'd want roundwounds. I use Ernie Ball Slinkies on my 5 string Ibanez.

Slapping with flats would sound more like slapping on an upright. Depends on your own taste.
I suggest trying it out.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderscreech View Post
Social Networking is a plague upon the face of the Earth.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milky View Post
I'd get an Itouch myself
  #11  
Old 03-28-2010, 01:09 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NorCal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kael View Post


Flats or rounds is irrelevant. Upright slap sounds nothing like slap on a bass guitar.
+1 Apples and rocks.

If flats on Bass Guitar are not good for slap than I wish more basses would come standard with them. Then I wouldn't have to listen to that crap at guitar center every time I go into the bass area. Barf.
  #12  
Old 03-28-2010, 01:30 PM
line6bassist's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: san antonio/austin
Supporting Member
i remember seeing a video on Reggie hamiliton at at bass player live clinic when he is using flats for his slap and it sounds pretty darn good.......just cant find the vid thou
  #13  
Old 03-28-2010, 01:49 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by M0ses View Post
I've never heard flats do a good slap sound. But then, I'm not sure I've ever really heard rounds do a good slap sound, either. Overall, though, flats beat the heck out of rounds.
yeah, someone needs to give marcus miller a call and tell him that "flats beat the heck out of rounds."

for slapping you want a bright sound, wich is inherent to roundwound strings. any slapping you've ever heard, was almost definately with roundwound strings- marcus, stanley, victor, flea, claypool, ext.
__________________
http://www.myspace.com/3rddegree5tet fresh live hiphop.
  #14  
Old 03-28-2010, 01:59 PM
thudfromafar's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatrus View Post
No.
^
__________________
"The constructive use of riches is better than their possession."

For sale:
clarinet
  #15  
Old 03-28-2010, 02:07 PM
Jefenator's Avatar
curiously looking back at what once was beautiful
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Oregon
Supporting Member
This is how my passive J-bass sounds with 6-month-old D'Addario Chrome flats:

http://jeffaddicottglassworks.com/po...omes_Aero1.mp3

I think of flats as being best suited for the old-school "Larry Graham" '70s slap sound. (No idea what he actually used - just works out that way for me.) Though with the above mentioned axe & strings thru my Mesa tube head, there's enough treble to literally hurt someone if I don't ease off on my attack.
__________________
"My kids never had the advantage I had. I was born poor." - Kirk Douglas
  #16  
Old 03-28-2010, 02:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
NO
  #17  
Old 03-28-2010, 03:28 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: upstate NY
My first thought. Chuck Rainey said he sort of hid it from Becker and Fagen when he did it. But you kinda have to be Chuck Rainey to get away with it. The sound is very subtle, not something I could do myself. I can emulate it a lot just with fingers, but you have to get the rhythmic feel, not easy, either.
  #18  
Old 03-28-2010, 03:34 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: College Station, TX
Send a message via AIM to jcphockey16
you can get decent slap sound out of rotosound 77s. i have them on my jazz bass

and if you go to laklands website, there are soundclips of basses with flats. including slap
  #19  
Old 03-28-2010, 03:40 PM
John Webb's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Myrtle Beach,SC
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by bassdreams View Post
NO
+ passed infinity
__________________
Follow your blissters.
Peace
  #20  
Old 03-28-2010, 03:46 PM
Alvaro Martín Gómez A.'s Avatar
TalkBass' resident Bongo + Cowbell player
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Bucaramanga, Colombia, South A
Send a message via MSN to Alvaro Martín Gómez A. Send a message via Yahoo to Alvaro Martín Gómez A. Send a message via Skype™ to Alvaro Martín Gómez A.
Supporting Member
Are flats good for slap?

In my experience, no.
__________________
My YouTube videos and my transcriptions blog. Club membership info available on my profile.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Carr View Post
Learn as much as you can from greats, but don't be a prisoner of their tone.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:31 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.