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Old 07-15-2010, 03:20 AM
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Flatwounds + tuning down = ?

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I want to try flatwounds, but I wonder how they sound if I tune them down. I usually have my bass tuned to C#-F#-B-E.
A friend of mine has recently purchased a set of LaBella 760FL and they sound really great, but I guess the FL set is too light for tuning down to C#.
LaBella also produces the Jamerson set and according to the reviews here they are very high tension and I think they could be suitable.
But I worry a bit about the sound, because I don't know if they are just muddy. Has anybody got experiences with down tuned flats? Are there any other flatwound sets that would be suitable for my tuning?
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:14 AM
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I tune my bass D-G-C-F wich works great with flats. Just take the reletively thick gauge.
I have good experience with GHS 0.45-1.05 and even better experience with Chomes (0.50-1.05). For even further downtuning to C# the higher tension of the LaBella's is a plus.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:59 PM
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I had Chromes on my 4 and dropped down to BEAD tuning because of the tension increase they had. I loved it that way. Good tension, sounded good, and lasted forever. I recently took them off and wish I would have left them on.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:02 PM
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Woah what are you playing to need just that range? Interested I am.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:46 PM
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"Dude - get a 5 string"
......is the normal response from the trolls round here.

I tune to C, F, A#, D# myself, and I've had trouble getting info cos most responses were just like above.
However a few kind souls did help me, so thank you.

I tried the Rotosound RS77LE set, with the 110 on the C.
They're actually okay on a 34" scale. The low C is a little loose (with that string the intonation took a while to get right), but overall the string feel was okay.
I generally like strings a little loose anyway, cos I like big bends, fingerstyle, and don't slap.
Tone; downtuned on the Roto's (once you've played them in) is great. I'll be keeping them on this bass for a long while!
Tension is comparable to a set of GHS heavy gauge (.115) tuned to C.

On a different 34" scale bass; right now I'm trying out a set of the Thomastik-Infeld 5 String, .043 - .136, JF345.
I threw away the G string and tuned up to C.
I'll need a little more time with these to really make any judgement yet tho.

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Old 07-16-2010, 12:26 AM
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I have been looking to do the same thing for my C#-F#-B-E tuned bass, but I can't decide between getting a high tension 4 string set or going with a low tension 5 string set.

I'm really interested in how the tension on the TI's would be tuned up a whole step.
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:01 AM
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Okay.
I have a pair of P-basses strung to C, F, A#, D#.
One with Thomastik-Infeld 5 String JF345, G string discarded.
The other has Rotosound RS77LE.
Only one thing to know, the TI's big fat .136 B string WILL NEED YOU TO FILE YOUR NUT, and I had to open up my bridge too.
I actually had to file the traditional A string gap in the nut for my F aswell........

I've been going between the two to get an idea of what I prefer. I'm not gonna go into tone - cos I haven't had more than a week to play in the TI's yet, so I still have a way to go........but they feel about right now.

The Roto's tuned to C feel (tension and ease of bending) just like the TI's tuned to normal BEAD.
The TI's in this standard tuning feel a little loose......

When you tune the TI's up to C,F,A#,D# it only increases the tension just enough to make the low C just right. Not flubby, but still not too tight so bends are difficult.
I really like the TI's in C.
The main difference in tension between the Roto's and TI's was on the low C, where the TI's were just a bit tighter. The other strings were all about the same.

Hope it helps ya.
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:15 AM
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Have a set of D'Addario Chromes tuned down to either Eb or even D & the tension / feel is great. For even lower tuning, I'd try the Steve Harris Rotosound flats, the thickest set around!
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:50 AM
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Rotosound RS77LE & Steve Harris are the same set, just different silks.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:58 AM
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Have a set of D'Addario Chromes tuned down to either Eb or even D & the tension / feel is great.
+1

I've never tuned down to C#, though, but you should be fine.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:02 AM
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I used to tune down Roto flats really low without trouble, I had my 6er set down to Ab-Db-Gb-Cb-Fb-A.

One time I had a BEAD set tuned F#BEA, but the action was a little higher than I liked, since the tension was a bit light for me, that was on a 35" scale bass, too.
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