Got my low C# strings today

[Alexander Eddy]

After a very long wait, my Circle K .254 7 string set arrived today.

WOW

These things really put the SIT strings to shame

Tuned C#F#BEADG my bass has come alive. I did originally plan to tune to B00, but having the top four strings EADG makes more sense

Previously using the SIT .165 and .195 I have had issues with pitch recognition even around G# below B. These things (no doubt because of the harmonics I was missing before) are simply amazing. Tweaking the setting on my bass pod pro, the low notes have come alive and pitch recognition right down to C# is a walk in the park. Playing F# on the C# string sounds very close to the open F# - something else I was missing before

I've had to put a pretty strong highpass at around 40hz to stop my speakers farting out.

When I get some time I'll post some soundclips. I can't wait to get into my bro's home studio and have some fun.

Great strings Skip - well worth the wait

[ixlramp]

Good to hear they finally arrived I tried the SIT .165 too and wasn't impressed. Too much exposed core in the vibrating length caused inharmonicity.

[Johnius]

Here I thought Jauqo III-X was the only one messing around with such a low frequency. Can you post a sound clip or link to a video?

[FunkMetalBass]

Originally Posted by Johnius

Here I thought Jauqo III-X was the only one messing around with such a low frequency. Can you post a sound clip or link to a video?

Plenty of people play with sub-contra tunings like that, but not seriously in a band setting.

Jean Baudin's basses are all equipped with a low C#.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Johnius

Here I thought Jauqo III-X was the only one messing around with such a low frequency. Can you post a sound clip or link to a video?

I started it a little over 10 years ago.

For a Little while Dean Markley, Jeff Landtroop(of D> Markley) and Circle K co founder Dave Brummet(who also works at Dean Markley) were making them for me. And for close to 8 years SIT has been making them.


I again would like to thank Dave Brummet for being so open minded to my need for such a string.


And I love my sig C# strings that are made by SIT. They may not be for everybody but they were made for me. And that's what a lot of players seem to not understand.




Before that there were no low C# strings being made at all by any company.

[Alexander Eddy]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

I started it a little over 10 years ago.

For a Little while Dean Markley, Jeff Landtroop(of D> Markley) and Circle K co founder Dave Brummet(who also works at Dean Markley) were making them for me. And for close to 8 years SIT has been making them.


I again would like to thank Dave Brummet for being so open minded to my need for such a string.


And I love my sig C# strings that are made by SIT. They may not be for everybody but they were made for me. And that's what a lot of players seem to not understand.




Before that there were no low C# strings being made at all by any company.

Have you tried Circle K strings in the heaver (+195) gauges?
Not trolling - a sincere question

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Alexander Eddy

Have you tried Circle K strings in the heaver (+195) gauges?
Not trolling - a sincere question

I don't see it as trolling.

I have tried the Circle K low C# string it was bigger than 195.(.200 and something) Not a bad string at all. And I'm being totally honest.


But I prefer my SIT's.

[Metal Matt]

Looking forward to hearing soundclips. I'm thinking about stringing my Epiphone Thunderbird C#F#BE with .244 .182 .136 .100.

[Alexander Eddy]

Originally Posted by Metal Matt

Looking forward to hearing soundclips. I'm thinking about stringing my Epiphone Thunderbird C#F#BE with .244 .182 .136 .100.

I am no pro - just an enthusiast. I will happily post some stuff in due course. I plan to play like a subwoofer - minums and semibreves.

I will hopefully have a clip of little wing in the next few weeks

[JAUQO III-X]

Alex why did you get a low C# string when you've said that you can't hear it? And that you seem to feel that that note can't be reproduced live or on a recording.

[Stick_Player]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Alex why did you get a low C# string when you've said that you can't hear it? And that you seem to feel that that note can't be reproduced live or on a recording.

Juaqo, what was the recording medium for your "Low C# Theory record"?

1 - Digital (i.e., Pro Tools, Logic, or...)?

2 - Analog?
-----a. 2" or other width?
-----b. 16 or 24 track?
-----c. recording speed (30, 15, other IPS)?

[OOZMAN]

Originally Posted by Johnius

Here I thought Jauqo III-X was the only one messing around with such a low frequency.

No waaaaaaaaay man... I'm gonna put (Circle K) .182 .136 .092 .068 .049 .037 on my 6 and tune to G C G C F A#. Yeah yeah I know thats not a low C#, but still....

[BassDudeSA]

I just stumbled on this thread. I'm just curious what style or what kind of band would be enhanced by such low notes, or is the goal just to go as low as possible for the sake of going low? Serious question, I'm just curious. I play fivers and rarely even hit that low B, only because it is getting so low that it seems counterproductive, might as well go back up an octave. And the reason for this is just because the song loses melody down that low, you hear a low end rumble or note, but the usefullness, the "music" seems to fade, though on occasion I use it for effect, but briefly.

But that's just me and I respect other's differences, just curious why some want or need to go much lower than a low B string. I have heard some video clips on Youtube of basses utilizing the F# string and it sounds like pure mud, and sloppy. Are there any good songs or vids that someone can refer me to where playing this low sounds good and enhances the music? I'd love to hear it. Heck, if I could find a proper use for it I would drop that low too, just haven't found a use yet.

[()smoke()]

I have The Low C# Theory, featuring Jauqo III-X on bass--it's a good example of music with those low notes.

[Alexander Eddy]

Originally Posted by BassDudeSA

I just stumbled on this thread. I'm just curious what style or what kind of band would be enhanced by such low notes, or is the goal just to go as low as possible for the sake of going low? Serious question, I'm just curious. I play fivers and rarely even hit that low B, only because it is getting so low that it seems counterproductive, might as well go back up an octave. And the reason for this is just because the song loses melody down that low, you hear a low end rumble or note, but the usefullness, the "music" seems to fade, though on occasion I use it for effect, but briefly.

But that's just me and I respect other's differences, just curious why some want or need to go much lower than a low B string. I have heard some video clips on Youtube of basses utilizing the F# string and it sounds like pure mud, and sloppy. Are there any good songs or vids that someone can refer me to where playing this low sounds good and enhances the music? I'd love to hear it. Heck, if I could find a proper use for it I would drop that low too, just haven't found a use yet.

I'm just experimenting - I have plenty of basses so mucking around with low tuning on one is not going to put me out of action.

My aim is to try and capture the low subwoofer style stuff that is prevalent in rap, r&b and pop. As such my harmonic content will be wildly different to Jauqo's. I'm not aiming for low rumbling, fast experimental stuff, I'm aiming for "shake your insides" with long drawn out notes. Not necessarily as a replacement for a normally tuned 4 banger, maybe even to augment it.

Also worth mentioning is that being a 7 string, I will still have EADG tuning on the top 4

I have played with a F# for a number of years now and a lot of the time I might only hit the F# once or twice a night, but it's nice to have there when you want it.

As I said, I'm experimenting at the moment. Once the semester is finished I'll record some stuff and post it up.

I'll also post some raw clips with requested EQ settings for people to analyse since they're so hard to get out of some people...

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by tylerwylie

This post illustrates your failure in reading comprehension.

No it does not. Alex has stated the issues that he was having with such low frequencies.

I asked Alex a legit question.

Originally Posted by Alexander Eddy

I'm not starting this again, and do not put words in my mouth.

There is a good reason your last thread turned to mud and was closed down.

YOU. JUST. DON'T. GET. IT.

Thank you Alex. And I do get it.


You say that you're experimenting and that's kool.

And the thread did not get closed down because of me.

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

Juaqo, what was the recording medium for your "Low C# Theory record"?

1 - Digital (i.e., Pro Tools, Logic, or...)?

2 - Analog?
-----a. 2" or other width?
-----b. 16 or 24 track?
-----c. recording speed (30, 15, other IPS)?

I used all of the above except logic. And I used 24 track

[Alexander Eddy]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

No it does not. Alex has stated the issues that he was having with such low frequencies.

17hz, yes. A low C#, no. There is a BIG difference between those two things.

Find a post where I have said I can't hear a C# string. Good luck. I stated that I couldn't hear your open C# through my laptop speakers, that was all.

And you don't get it, you still don't seem to comprehend that a perfectly good C# can exist without an ounce of 17hz content. This was demonstrated by the waterfall plot of your youtube video.

The thread was shut down because people became so tired of the way you were acting and got nasty. I was one of those people. My fuse is only so long.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Alexander Eddy

17hz, yes. A low C#, no. There is a BIG difference between those two things.

Find a post where I have said I can't hear a C# string. Good luck. I stated that I couldn't hear your open C# through my laptop speakers, that was all.

And you don't get it, you still don't seem to comprehend that a perfectly good C# can exist without an ounce of 17hz content. This was demonstrated by the waterfall plot of your youtube video.

The thread was shut down because people became so tired of the way you were acting and got nasty. I was one of those people. My fuse is only so long.

I wasen't nasty at all. I should have been.


That thread turned mean and disrespectful. And I was not the one being being mean and disrespectful.

[Metal Matt]

Originally Posted by BassDudeSA

I just stumbled on this thread. I'm just curious what style or what kind of band would be enhanced by such low notes... Serious question, I'm just curious.

Bongripper - Satan

6 minutes into this song is what sub bass tunings are all about to me. This band is tuned to low F. There's no way to get a sound so gutteral and deep without tuning so low.

[knuckle_head]

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

But they (the fundamentals) are not there.

The timbre is though . . . it really is a good piece of work.