Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Strings [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-23-2008, 08:48 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
How does Stuart Zender get that huge fat tone with light gauge steel roundwounds?

Sign in to disble this ad
This has always puzzled me because his tone is always so warm and fat, yet he uses Elite Stainless Steel Roundwounds gauges 35, 55, 75, 95. I have read this in many interviews so that isn't false. A perfect of the tone I am talking about is in this live version of Too Young To Die - http://youtube.com/watch?v=F81ruflokdc -. It always seems like his highs are subdued despite using these strings. Could his use of Trace tube amps + lots of compression + tone rolled off compensate for his choice of stings?
  #2  
Old 03-23-2008, 11:34 AM
Just Thumpin''s Avatar
Registered User

Manager and Partner, Fodera Guitars (as of 10/14/09)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NE United States
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by AqueousView11 View Post
This has always puzzled me because his tone is always so warm and fat, yet he uses Elite Stainless Steel Roundwounds gauges 35, 55, 75, 95. I have read this in many interviews so that isn't false. A perfect of the tone I am talking about is in this live version of Too Young To Die - http://youtube.com/watch?v=F81ruflokdc -. It always seems like his highs are subdued despite using these strings. Could his use of Trace tube amps + lots of compression + tone rolled off compensate for his choice of stings?
I am not sure how he gets his tone, but on my Fodera Monarch 4-string bass I use 40-55-75-95 round wounds and I can get pretty fat tones by dialing down the mid-range and treble slightly and picking fairly softly. Much of the brightness of thinner gauge strings is accentuated or reduced by your right hand technique. Also, again, the brightness tends to appear mostly in the mid-range and lower treble...hope that helps. BTW, I do NOT use any compression...
__________________
Just Thumpin'
  #3  
Old 03-23-2008, 11:48 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Timisoara, Romania
Send a message via Yahoo to MichiBass
It's all in his hands...
__________________
"We think that Music stops at the ears. That is a mistake. Vibrations can be felt in all places and at all times, even with the eyes." - Victor L. Wooten
  #4  
Old 03-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sweden
Send a message via ICQ to Roland777
Lighter gauges (or lighter tension, rather) naturally makes your tone "warmer", since the harmonics drop off, making the tone more fundamental-focused, not the other way around. That means that it's easier to get Stu's tone with light-gauge strings.
That being said, EQing out some treble and putting the balance towards the neck-pickup helps quite a way, but I'm 95% sure that Stu also uses compression, as that has always come up when this topic is discussed.
  #5  
Old 03-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Denton, TX
With the massive amount of digital and analog effects Zender was using on jamiroquai recordings, I would argue against the whole "it's all in his hands" thing. His tone was heavily processed...HEAVILY.
__________________
Yeah, I double...don't you?
  #6  
Old 03-23-2008, 12:51 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roland777 View Post
Lighter gauges (or lighter tension, rather) naturally makes your tone "warmer", since the harmonics drop off, making the tone more fundamental-focused, not the other way around. That means that it's easier to get Stu's tone with light-gauge strings.
That being said, EQing out some treble and putting the balance towards the neck-pickup helps quite a way, but I'm 95% sure that Stu also uses compression, as that has always come up when this topic is discussed.
Thanks for the input, I always thought lighter gauge meant brighter but I this is a pleasant surprise.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:35 AM.




Copyright ©2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All right reserved.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.