Nickel on Steel?

im looking at the Rotosound nickel on steel strings. what are the advantages/disadvantages to these, and why are they about 5 bucks cheaper than other roto strings?

[metallibass95]

I am wondering the same thing. I have no experience with nickel on steel but I was thinking about trying a Rotosound set of them and I really want to know how they are in comparison to both nickel and steel strings. I know that Cliff Burton and Geddy Lee uses the nickel on steel Rotosounds I would really like some imput from someone with a little experience on nickel on steel rotosounds.

[p-bass]

"Nickel on Steel"(as you put it )= Nickel Plated Steel. D'addario XL Nickelwound,Fender 7250's,Ernie Ball Nickel Roundwound,Dunlop Nickel Plated and GHS Boomers are all Nickel Plated Steel Strings. Cliff Burton and Geddy Lee used/use Rotosound Steel Strings.

[p-bass]

Originally Posted by metallibass95

no actually Cliff Burton and Geddy Lee used nickel plated steels. I got pics and videos to prove it. Chris Squier also used nickel plated.

the only people I know of that actually use the Rotosound steels are Billy Sheehan and Duff Mckagan.

WRONG !

omg, not what im asking, look at my original post please and thanks

[Meatrus]

Originally Posted by metallibass95

no actually Cliff Burton and Geddy Lee used nickel plated steels. I got pics and videos to prove it. Chris Squier also used nickel plated.

the only people I know of that actually use the Rotosound steels are Billy Sheehan and Duff Mckagan.

Lmao! I think you better check your sources mate. Geddy is famous for his rotosound steel sound. Also Chris Squier actually got in trouble with Rickenbacker for using steels, as all his fans copied him, then Rickenbacker had a stack of basses in for repair under guarantee as they used to make their fret wire out of soft stuff and roto steels are fairly rough. It was in Bassplayer a few months back.

I think your confusement could be down to the fact that rotosound steel swing 66 make a Nickel version of the same string, and dont call them a different name just 66 swing Nickel.

Just so your clear which strings are which this one is Steel http://www.gjsguitars.com/detail.jsp...97&src=froogle

And this Nickel (plated or pure, the pack used to say pure on my last set around a year ago) of the same string http://www.soundunlimited.co.uk/prod..._45-105_2.html.

Hope that helped.

[bimmer]

I'm guessing you mean the Rotobass strings? Essentially the same as the Swingbass nickel sets minus the silk wound ends and some of the price tag. Advantages/ disadvantages depend on where you stand with the Rotsound sound and silk windings. Personally, I can't tell any difference between Rotobass and Swingbass nickels as far as sound, feel, tension or string life goes, so if they're in the shop I generally buy them in preference to Swingbass and save a few beer tokens.

[Meatrus]

Originally Posted by brutal bassist

omg, not what im asking, look at my original post please and thanks

I guess they are cheaper because steel is more expensive than Nickel? , I have tried them, they are nice and have blue silk on them! Got to be a reason to buy them if your bass is blue or green or silver.

[p-bass]

Metallibass95....I don't think you know what you are talking about ! I would think,the Roto Nickels are more than likely priced lower, because they don't sell like the original steel Rotosound 66 Swing Bass sets...IMO. Steve

[metallibass95]

Originally Posted by Meatrus

Lmao! I think you better check your sources mate. Geddy is famous for his rotosound steel sound. Also Chris Squier actually got in trouble with Rickenbacker for using steels, as all his fans copied him, then Rickenbacker had a stack of basses in for repair under guarantee as they used to make their fret wire out of soft stuff and roto steels are fairly rough. It was in Bassplayer a few months back.

I think your confusement could be down to the fact that rotosound steel swing 66 make a Nickel version of the same string, and dont call them a different name just 66 swing Nickel.

Just so your clear which strings are which this one is Steel http://www.gjsguitars.com/detail.jsp...97&src=froogle

And this Nickel (plated or pure, the pack used to say pure on my last set around a year ago) of the same string http://www.soundunlimited.co.uk/prod..._45-105_2.html.

Hope that helped.

and I have never seen the blue package before and those are pure nickel. which on musiciansfriend they didn't have the pure nickel. they only had steel and nickel on steel. but I am wondering, I don't believe I have ever used nickel on steel before, but then again I use Ernie Ball slinkys and I think they are nickel plated or nickel on something, I just don't know what. But would there be a difference between the ErnieBall slinkys and the Rotosound nickel on steel?

[p-bass]

Originally Posted by metallibass95

I have pictures of Cliff Burton's rickenbacker with a set of nickel strings on it. I can tell because the nickel strings are lighter color and reflect light really well where as if you saw steel strings in the dark lightning of the picture they would be so dark they would almost look black or at least really really dark grey. And also I saw the studio recording of Tom Sawyer and the strings Geddy had on his rickenbacker are also nickel, its very easy to tell just by looking at them. I actually compared both picture and videos of Geddy and Cliff's basses to Billy Sheehan pics and videos and its a difference of night and day when looking at their strings. It's evident that Cliff and Geddy uses nickel strings.

Please,somebody say this guy is joking ?

[Meatrus]

Originally Posted by p-bass

Please,somebody say this guy is joking ?

.......this would be a good time for him to say just kidding. Lets give him a chance to say that, then if he didnt say that, I could direct him to the Rotosound site (hint DO IT hint!!! )

[p-bass]

Hint # 2, Rotosound site

[metallibass95]

Originally Posted by p-bass

Hint # 2, Rotosound site

I have been looking but still can't find the site, could someone give it to me please?

[Meatrus]

Originally Posted by metallibass95

I have been looking but still can't find the site, could someone give it to me please?

http://www.rotosound.com or http://www.rotosound.com/swing66.html for link to the swing 66 with Geddys name on the left. You could do a Google search for any of your fav players and it shouldn't be too hard to find their strings, all the following use steel 66 (orange pack)

John Paul Jones
Geddy Lee
Jaco
John Entwistle
Duff
Sheehan, and plenty more.

[metallibass95]

Originally Posted by Meatrus

http://www.rotosound.com or http://www.rotosound.com/swing66.html for link to the swing 66 with Geddys name on the left. You could do a Google search for any of your fav players and it shouldn't be too hard to find their strings, all the following use steel 66 (orange pack)

John Paul Jones
Geddy Lee
Jaco
John Entwistle
Duff
Sheehan, and plenty more.

yeah it was kinda vague because all I could find on Geddy and Cliff was that they just simply used the brand Rotosound, the stuff I looked on didn't tell what type of strings or anything, thats why I was going by the pics. But thanks for the address man and i'll take a look at it.

[Meatrus]

Originally Posted by metallibass95

man seriously, I got questions and all I want is answers and as far as the Geddy/Cliff thing I just need some proof that they seriously just use steel strings thats all. I'm not trying to be mean or make people out to look like they don't know what they are talking about, I am just going by the pictures I saw and that they really do look identical to nickel strings. I am just trying to get info without people getting mad or being jerks, theres no sense in getting mad about something, if you have proof then just give me proof and I really will believe you.

Please dont think I was getting mad! I was not at all or meaning to be a jerk, just trying to help, it was a little frustrating with two people trying to help you and you not listening to either of us. But I understand you might want proof, there should be plenty on Google and other threads on the forum.

[p-bass]

Not being a "jerk",you just didn't like what I was saying. No need for name calling now.

[Meatrus]

Originally Posted by metallibass95

no man I know you wasn't mad at me and I was listening but still though you know I do need proof about the steel although for Geddy he really does get that steel sound. But someone else was being a real jerk to me and i'm sorry if I came off as a jerk too. That site you gave me is awsome although it doesn't directly tell if Geddy's strings are steel or not but I will go on google and try to find out. But thanks for all the help man.

No problem, heres a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geddy_Lee. Look under equipment used bottom of the first paragraph.

Again glad to help.

[p-bass]

Fine with me..I ain't gonna lose any sleep..good luck..and please,stop the private messages if you don't want hear what I have to say. Peace