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03-06-2009, 03:32 PM
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I'm a big roundwound user on my fretless. Never tried rotos on it though. How do rotos sound on a fretless?
I also want to try out flatwounds on a fretless, how did those sound?
Remember Tommy wdju(what did jaco use)?
What did he use?
I'm a little upset with roto because on the website the sound preview on the swing bass 66 and the jazz bass 77 are the same. And I have already thought about how it could be the same riff and differnt strings, but I can hear the differnt sounds between roundwound and flatwound... I'm sure rotosound is great but I know flats and rounds can't sound the same. |
03-06-2009, 03:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: right behind you... | | | I looooove rotosound strings but say goodbye to your fingerboard if you use them on a fretless. Those strings are rough on frets and they will chew your fingerboard up.
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03-06-2009, 03:36 PM
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active musician | | | | | I have never played roundwounds on my fretless. don't they grind the sh** out of the fretboard? Oh well. All I will ever use are rotosounds. So I will advocate for them. So sorry I can not give you a more definative answer. Hope for the best!
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03-06-2009, 03:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX | | | Rotosounds will definitely eat the fingerboard, but any stainless roundwound string will do that..
Why not go with DR Sunbeams? They are the best string I've ever heard for a fretless. They're nickel wrapped so they are a lot easier on the board. Plus, they are round core (very easy to play), and sound so delicious!
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03-06-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RTL Rotosounds will definitely eat the fingerboard, but any stainless roundwound string will do that. | Trust me, rotosounds are an apex predator when it comes to wearing down frets/fingers/fingerboards, but I do agree that any roundwound is not so good on a fretless fingerboard. You can either say F@*! it and use em or find another type of string. I hate flatwound strings personally so I use black nylon tapewound strings on my fretless. Tone wise I'd put them between the two(roundwound/tapewound) not quite as mellow sounding but not as bright as roundwounds(plus no string talk) 
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03-06-2009, 03:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Paul, MN | | | I use Rotos on fretless, and they do chew up the fretboard a bit, but not enough where it affects playability. They sound nice, lots of "mwaah".
The ones I use are the "Funk Masters" - gauge 30.
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03-06-2009, 04:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx | | | Ohh nice, the fretboard already has lines on the fretboard from the rounds diggin' into it.
So like you said, I'm gunna say "just F@*! it" and go for it! Now the question is Swing 66,
Funkmaster, or change it up with the billy sheeehan (yes I know who he is) strings? |
03-06-2009, 04:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Paul, MN | | | Only go for the Funk Masters if you like super skinny strings. I do, (of course I use them) but many people do not. They do rob some low end.
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03-06-2009, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommygunn Ohh nice, the fretboard already has lines on the fretboard from the rounds diggin' into it.
So like you said, I'm gunna say "just F@*! it" and go for it! Now the question is Swing 66,
Funkmaster, or change it up with the billy sheeehan (yes I know who he is) strings? | The only difference between the Billy Sheehan and regular Swing Bass is the thicker E and thinner G string, and the thicker E is only because Sheehan uses D-Tuners on all of his basses. I doubt anybody is really going to notice a whole lot of difference between a .045 and a .043 G string, plus I know a place that can get you the regular Rotosound Swing Bass for $15 a set. PM sent |
03-06-2009, 04:51 PM
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Endorsing Artist: GHS Strings | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: 818 ~ 805 ~ L.A. | | | If roundwounds worked for JP, they'll be fine for you and me...
Have a hard epoxy finish put on the fingerboard... I've had that for 22 years; I only play roundwounds and the finish has not been worn thru...
Norik Renson of Renson Guitars in Studio City, CA did that for me and it plays amazingly well... FWIW |
03-06-2009, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LowBSix If roundwounds worked for JP, they'll be fine for you and me...
Have a hard epoxy finish put on the fingerboard... I've had that for 22 years; I only play roundwounds and the finish has not been worn thru...
Norik Renson of Renson Guitars in Studio City, CA did that for me and it plays amazingly well... FWIW | Hmmm... how does the epoxy finish affect the tone? Or does it? |
03-06-2009, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LowBSix If roundwounds worked for JP, they'll be fine for you and me...
Have a hard epoxy finish put on the fingerboard... | Yes, unless you fancy replacing necks on a regular basis, the epoxy finish is critical if you're going to use rounds on a fretless. Sounds like in this case, however, the damage may already be done? |
03-06-2009, 06:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Studio City, CA | | | Have to agree. Just had my '76 Gibby fret less 'leveled' to get rid of fret rash. Have seen a number of players locally using tape wounds on fret less? What's that all about?
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03-06-2009, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommygunn Hmmm... how does the epoxy finish affect the tone? Or does it? | I'll put it to you this way... The tone is fantastic! The bass is very 80-esque... It's a Guild 5 string Fretless, with a EMG's and Bartolini preamp... Nathan East once said, after a band I was playing with opened for Fourplay, "I want that tone, I want that tone!" |
03-06-2009, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LowBSix Nathan East once said, after a band I was playing with opened for Fourplay, "I want that tone, I want that tone!" | Whoa... I bet you lived on that comment for weeks! |
03-06-2009, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jaywa Yes, unless you fancy replacing necks on a regular basis, the epoxy finish is critical if you're going to use rounds on a fretless. | It all depends on the rounds in question. D'addario strings are gentle on fingerboards, in my experience. From what I hear about Rotos, they're not so kind.  Haven't tried them yet.
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03-06-2009, 07:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx | | | Well I'll ask the "bass-man" at my local music store about the epoxy finish.
But it's down to the Steve harris flats or the billy sheehan rounds...
or I could just get swing 66 or jazz 77's |
03-06-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jaywa Whoa... I bet you lived on that comment for weeks! | Tone is your signature... find one and make it your own.... don't concern yourself with sounding like this guy or that...
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03-06-2009, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LowBSix Tone is your signature... find one and make it your own.... don't concern yourself with sounding like this guy or that...
Let the influences take their shape in your sound... | Very true...hmmmm that being said,
Does rotosound offer differnt gauges (lite, heavy, ect) ?
What is the website for Texas bassist club?
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03-06-2009, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommygunn I'm gunna say "just F@*! it" and go for it! | +1
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Maybe try the funkmasters Spambot mentioned. I only have experience with the swingbass rs66ld sets.
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