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09-02-2006, 01:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Järvenpää Finland EU | | | Slapping with flatwounds??
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I have a 5-string ash bodied maple neck jazz copy and I`m getting new strings to it... I like the flatwound tone, Flea, Harris and more traditional jazz. But I like to slap once and a while.. Is it really possible with flatwounds? Ok it`s possible with strings made of barbedwire, but can you get any good sound of it?? Will I loose all clarity and attack with flats? Harris has a lot off attack and precence but he plays presicion.. Does that mather much? My playnmg style is very close to Harris and I hit the frets often just like him,.. But I allso play Metallica, Megadeath and other trash. Can you really do that with flats? And what flats would you suggest?
Thanks 
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09-02-2006, 01:23 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bridgewater, CT | | | The slap sound I get out of my precision with flats isn't too bad. I'm not a big fan of slap in general though so I don't do it much at all. |
09-02-2006, 02:05 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Absolutely you can slap with flats. All that early Sly stuff Larry Graham did was on flats. And two of the biggest slap songs in history, "Brick House" and "Boogie Oogie Oogie" were done on flats. |
09-02-2006, 02:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Järvenpää Finland EU | | | Ok I can somewhat slap whit them... Alltho they are not meant for slapping (doesn`t have to be)
How are the other factors.. If I play metal with flats will I sound..hmm...dull and mellow? My bass naturally gives very clear, mid and high boosted sound for jazz (body wood and neck). Will flats suit for this kind of bass? I have heard that they are mainly used in fretless basses.. |
09-02-2006, 03:58 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | I don't mind flats for some things, but slapping, certainly not for me. Sure, you cna slap on them, but they just don't have the brightness or the "attack" to get a tone that sounds good to me. |
09-03-2006, 02:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Sure you can slap 'em. If you can deal with an "old school" slap tone.
You ain't gonna be Victor or Marcus that's a fact. |
09-03-2006, 06:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: London, England | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Chris2112 I don't mind flats for some things, but slapping, certainly not for me. Sure, you cna slap on them, but they just don't have the brightness or the "attack" to get a tone that sounds good to me. | +1...I'm not a big fan of the sound either...You need the twang IMO. |
09-04-2006, 10:47 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CO | | | I just put a set of Ernie Ball Group II (50-70-85-105) flats on a new Highway One Precision. They definitely slap. It is more percussive. I am a active round wound guy typically but flats are nice change. Sometimes with rounds you can do stuff that just sounds good because of the roundwound pop. With flats it takes more substance IMO to create a good sound but if it is in the fingers, it will come thru. Its sort of like hearing one of those URB guys slapping and bumping things.
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09-04-2006, 11:07 AM
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Endorsing Artist: see profile | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: toms_river.nj.us | | I LOVE slapping on flats!!!
(ash & maple 5 string with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups strung with SIT Powerflats) |
09-04-2006, 11:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fontana, CA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by James Hart I LOVE slapping on flats!!!
(ash & maple 5 string with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups strung with SIT Powerflats) | Your Mp3 links are dead (for me anyways) |
09-06-2006, 11:08 AM
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Owner/designer; SGD Lutherie | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montclair, NJ, USA | | | I used to slap on La Bella 760FL Deep Talkin' Bass stainless steel flats. Very bright flats, and they aren't thuddy sounding. They sound like round wounds without the ringing top end. |
09-06-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cantstandsya Your Mp3 links are dead (for me anyways) | hmmm... they work for me  |
09-06-2006, 01:06 PM
|  | The older I get, the better I was. | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pasadena, CA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by James Hart hmmm... they work for me |
Yep. They work for me, too. Nice playing, James! |
09-06-2006, 01:21 PM
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Owner/designer; SGD Lutherie | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montclair, NJ, USA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by James Hart I LOVE slapping on flats!!!
(ash & maple 5 string with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups strung with SIT Powerflats) | Sounds good! That's how the old Sly and the Family Stone songs are... not that many people used round wounds back then. |
09-06-2006, 02:20 PM
|  | Fingers, pick, and a little bit of slap | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Terrapin country (Crofton, MD) | | | I love the old skool sound of slapped flats. Actually, TI's sound pretty snappy when slapped... worked just fine for "Aeroplane" (for me, didn't mean Flea). |
09-06-2006, 10:00 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: US | | | Set the action a little lower, and put on a new set of Eb, La Bella, or Roto flats, and thump away. The tone is really warm and sweet.
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09-06-2006, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hart hmmm... they work for me | Now they're working  |
09-06-2006, 10:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Englewood, CO | | I ge ta good slap sound using TI jazz Flats on my Fretless Jazz Barber Custom.. so ya it is definately possible. 
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09-06-2006, 10:57 PM
|  | Does it sound good to YOU???? OK then....
Artist: Genz Benz/ AccuGroove/MLP Basses | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The O-X baby! (Oxford Mi.) | | | MeShell Nedegochellosomethinglikethat uses flats and slaps.
She's really the only one who I've heard in recient times doing it that I really enjoyed.
But I will listen to yours in a few minutes James!!
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09-06-2006, 11:00 PM
| | Does it sound good to YOU???? OK then....
Artist: Genz Benz/ AccuGroove/MLP Basses | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The O-X baby! (Oxford Mi.) | | | Wow James, those don't really sound like flats as much as I thought they wound.
Meshell whatshername (whom I LOVE BTW, just can't spell her name!) tone is very flat wound sounding.
Yours almost sounds roundwound-ish.
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