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Old 11-16-2008, 01:48 AM
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Strange Tuning Questions - .165/.195 Content!

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So I just recently got my bass restrung to

C: .125
G: .090
D: .060
A: .035
E: .018p

and I'm loving the 5ths tuning. Unfortunately, I've also discovered pretty quickly that I hate the plain steel string, the high strings are incredibly jangly, and the tension is a little off balance.

So I've been thinking about trying one of two things, either changing the high E out for a Low F, or perhaps trying GDAEB tuning. So what gauges would work best for the low low string? I've done a search and found that some people recommend the .195 for an F# rather than Conklins recommended .165. I know that if I went for GDAEB I could probably get away with the .165 with plenty of tension.

I play a Peavey Grind NTB 5 string, a 35" scale, one of the older models with the bent plate bridge rather than the newer single-string-through-body bridges. Would I need to replace my bridge or anything, seeing as the .195 or .165 probably wouldn't fit through the hole in the tail of the bridge. Any other concerns I should know about.

Thanks, and sorry about the rambling.

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Oh, by the way I also got my guitarist to change to this tuning and he's loving it as well. Might anybody be able to direct me to a place where I may find information for tuning a guitar down to low F or G?

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Old 11-17-2008, 12:27 PM
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Basically all I want to know is how extensively I'll need to modify my bass to use a Subcontra string. Anybody?
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:37 PM
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I recently changed my Ibanez BTB-575 (35" scale) to F#BEAD. I used a Conklin .150 for the F#, and it's a disaster. Too floppy, and there's this really bad false harmonic...or something that sounds like a note an octave and half-step above what I'm playing, probably due to the ridiculous taper at the bridge end of the string. Moral of that story is: don't use a .150, don't use a Snakeskin. My guess is that .165 will probably work, and .195 will be too big.

For perspective on what I mean by "too big", I have a 25.5" scale guitar tuned in standard with 13-65 (plus a .072 low-B), and do bends on it.

Now, as for modification - you may have to modify your bridge, but if it's a bent plate-type, a drill or even a round file will do it. You'll probably have to file your nut; be careful as you can't unfile, only replace (or shim) if you cut too deep. You'll probably want higher action on the low strings. Truss rod/intonation goes without saying.

To tune a guitar that low, you probably won't have to modify the bridge, but may have to do the nut. If it's a 24.75" scale or has crappy pickups, forget it unless you like a jazz guitar/dub sound. If it's a 27" with EMG's...should work quite well. IIRC, I used a .075 for an F# on a 25.5" and wished for a bit more tension, but most players would find it just right.

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Old 11-17-2008, 04:37 PM
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I think I'm going to go

G: .165
D: .110
A: .090
E: .060
B. .040 (maybe .035)

As for the guitar I'll probably go GDAEAD or DAEBDA
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:34 AM
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I am tuned as follows on my 35" scale length bass:

A0 - .145T
D - .105
G - .080
C - .060
F - .045
A# - .032

These are all D'Addario ProSteel Super Long Strings... Their .145T Pro Steel is probably the best sounding string out there for the size...
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