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Old 01-07-2013, 08:57 PM
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"A" string gauge?

Why do some string manufacturers seem to have settled on the standard gauge string set with .080 for the A string instead of following the pattern of 45 65 85 105? After experimenting with various sets it seems my preference is for the thicker A (just feels and sounds right) IMHO. Just wondering how the 80 for the A string got into many sets as a standard as 45 65 80 105, seems to make sense for the 40 60 80 100.
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80 and 105 are closer in tension to each other while 85 and 105 the A string is higher in tension.
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.045, .060, .080, .105 should be reasonably equal in tension. The usual .045, .065, .085, .105 set has highest tension in the .065 D, followed by the .085 A.

I prefer the balanced tension approach, but if traditional gauges feel good to you, it's your call.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:40 PM
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.045, .060, .080, .105 should be reasonably equal in tension. The usual .045, .065, .085, .105 set has highest tension in the .065 D, followed by the .085 A.

I prefer the balanced tension approach, but if traditional gauges feel good to you, it's your call.
Well also, the .045 G string is about as high as a .085 A string in many cases, but a .040 G string is much lower in tension than a .080 A string, meaning you're kinda stuck with one of the two options unless you can find something like .044 or .043
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:49 AM
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80 and 105 are closer in tension to each other while 85 and 105 the A string is higher in tension.
Thought so too.. Good to know!

And how is with the kind of string gauge I use for the 2 lowest strings? I have a .110 for the E string and a .140 for the B string.

Is this close in tension and such?
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Thought so too.. Good to know!

And how is with the kind of string gauge I use for the 2 lowest strings? I have a .110 for the E string and a .140 for the B string.

Is this close in tension and such?
Looking at Circle K's tension chart they give 48.1lbs for a .112 E and 42.7lbs for a .142 B. That suggests you've got more tension on your E. A closer match would be a .105 E or .150 B.
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Looking at Circle K's tension chart they give 48.1lbs for a .112 E and 42.7lbs for a .142 B. That suggests you've got more tension on your E. A closer match would be a .105 E or .150 B.
Meh... I'm fine with the .140 B. .150 is too much.. Perhaps I might try a .145 in the future, but .140 is good for now
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Keep in mind it's not all about the gauge. How they're wound and the size of their windings affects tension as well as scale length. But generally Bigger=higher tension, and the lower you get, the bigger the difference between sizes needs to be to attain equal or near equal tension for a note a fourth lower. My C# is a .232 and my F# is a .172. It's a monstrous leap, but it keeps the tension relatively even.

Also, I strongly advise everybody to at least try a balanced set of Circle K's. It feels magical :swoons:
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Keep in mind it's not all about the gauge. How they're wound and the size of their windings affects tension as well as scale length. But generally Bigger=higher tension, and the lower you get, the bigger the difference between sizes needs to be to attain equal or near equal tension for a note a fourth lower. My C# is a .232 and my F# is a .172. It's a monstrous leap, but it keeps the tension relatively even.

Also, I strongly advise everybody to at least try a balanced set of Circle K's. It feels magical :swoons:
WHAT? .232?? How thick is your bass neck?
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That .232 has as much tension on it as a .095 does tuned to E . . . no fat neck required.
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