String issues on my Lakland

[ModulusQ5-122]

Maybe i am just an idiot but what exactly does "Long Scale" mean???? I have a Modulus Quantum with a 35" scale and use Elixir's on it and have never had a problem. I tried the same set on my Lakland 55-02 also with a 35" scale and the end of the string winding doesnt go past the nut. I even tried going through the back of the bridge and not through the body and still is about 1/8 of an inch shy. Why would they be different if they are both 35" scale?? Please help, i had to put some Ernie Balls on it temporarily but i have to use coated strings do to my sweaty hands.

[JTE]

The common terminology (which goes back to at least 1973) is:

Short scale- 30"
Medium scale- 32"
Long scale - 34"

35" scales are probably best thought of as extra-long scale. And scale length refers ONLY to the distance from the nut to the bridge saddle (or more correctly, twice the distance from the nut to the 12th fret). It does NOT take into account the length needed from the ball-end to the saddle, nor the nut to the tuning machine.

D'Addario's long-scale will NOT fit a through-body 34" scale bass (and haven't since around 1989). My experience on my Laklands is that the Elixers didn't fit my 4-94s unless they were top-loaded, just like D'Addario long-scale. The D'Addario extra-long did fit the Lakland, as do DR, GHS, and of course Lakland strings. But that's all on a 34" Lakland strung through the body. Elixers and D'Addario regular long-scale (as well as TI) fit the Lakland 34" scale when top loaded.

However, on my Skyline 55-01, I've used DR Sunbeams, Lakland steels, and some Peavey stainless. They all fit through-body on the 35" scale. I'd suggest going over to The Lakland Owners' Group at http://www.laklandowners.com/joomla/. There's a thread in there somewhere that's a list of strings that work on the 35" through-body basses.

John

[ModulusQ5-122]

Originally Posted by JTE

The common terminology (which goes back to at least 1973) is:

Short scale- 30"
Medium scale- 32"
Long scale - 34"

35" scales are probably best thought of as extra-long scale. And scale length refers ONLY to the distance from the nut to the bridge saddle (or more correctly, twice the distance from the nut to the 12th fret). It does NOT take into account the length needed from the ball-end to the saddle, nor the nut to the tuning machine.

D'Addario's long-scale will NOT fit a through-body 34" scale bass (and haven't since around 1989). My experience on my Laklands is that the Elixers didn't fit my 4-94s unless they were top-loaded, just like D'Addario long-scale. The D'Addario extra-long did fit the Lakland, as do DR, GHS, and of course Lakland strings. But that's all on a 34" Lakland strung through the body. Elixers and D'Addario regular long-scale (as well as TI) fit the Lakland 34" scale when top loaded.

However, on my Skyline 55-01, I've used DR Sunbeams, Lakland steels, and some Peavey stainless. They all fit through-body on the 35" scale. I'd suggest going over to The Lakland Owners' Group at http://www.laklandowners.com/joomla/. There's a thread in there somewhere that's a list of strings that work on the 35" through-body basses.

John

Man thanks alot thats what i needed.

[Chasarms]

Originally Posted by ModulusQ5-122

. . . Why would they be different if they are both 35" scale?? . . .

It's the design of the bridge. The Modulus bridges have the quick release feature and the strings end up having the actual ball end closer to the saddle. In other words, you are using more of the string between the saddle and the anchor position, so there is less left to stretch the length of the bass.

FWIW, I have had the best results using DR long necks on Laklands. They're perfect.

[bherman]

Originally Posted by ModulusQ5-122

Maybe i am just an idiot but what exactly does "Long Scale" mean???? I have a Modulus Quantum with a 35" scale and use Elixir's on it and have never had a problem. I tried the same set on my Lakland 55-02 also with a 35" scale and the end of the string winding doesnt go past the nut. I even tried going through the back of the bridge and not through the body and still is about 1/8 of an inch shy. Why would they be different if they are both 35" scale?? Please help, i had to put some Ernie Balls on it temporarily but i have to use coated strings do to my sweaty hands.

For D'addarios on my 55-02, I had to use super-long scale chromes....