String tension too high

rito25 · #1 11-01-2010, 11:07 PM

Ok, I recently replaced the strings on my Yamaha RBX 350 with GHS Tapewounds, according to my brother there is too much tension on the neck, and is causing it to bow at the top. My brother says that detuning would fix it, but his who idea doesn't make a whole lot of of sense and I don't want to change the tuning as I play along with CD's. Should I have the bass adjusted so it can work safely with the new strings, or should I dump the GHS strings and put back on the old ones which didn't seem to cause an issue. I really like the new strings as they work better for slides which I do a lot of but I value my bass more.

bass_lord_mutha · #2 11-01-2010, 11:15 PM

Well since you like the tapewounds I would just have the bass setup to accept the strings. GHS tapewounds are a little heavier than a standard set of strings (.50-.105 as opposed to .45-.100 or .105), so the neck with definitley have to be straightened out a little bit.

rito25 · #3 11-02-2010, 05:05 AM

So how do I that? My brother is good at doing basic repairs.Or do I need to go to a luthier and have them fix it?

OOZMAN · #4 11-02-2010, 05:20 AM

Tighten the truss rod dude.... if you don't know how, don't try; take it to a pro.

rito25 · #5 11-02-2010, 05:24 AM

I know what the truss rod is. The weird thing is according to my brother, its only starting to warp at the top of the fret board, the rest of it is pretty straight.

RestInPieces · #6 11-02-2010, 08:37 AM

Well it's not THAT hard to adjust the truss rod, you'll find information from this so called intrawebz. Just don't go apeshit crazy, only tighten a little bit at a time, something like 1/6 or less, and observe closely how the neck is reacting. It's not nuclear physics.

harmendebresser · #7 11-02-2010, 08:41 AM

Jimmy McMillan would say... Too DAMN high!
Or, get Rotosound TruBass strings - low tension (but larger gauge).

rito25 · #8 11-02-2010, 09:25 AM

Hmm? I actually don't know if the neck needs adjusting, I got the bass used. Are GHS high tension or low tension?
The bass feels fine, and plays fine. Any suggestion to check it?

**Staccato** · #9 11-02-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RestInPieces

Well it's not THAT hard to adjust the truss rod, you'll find information from this so called intrawebz. Just don't go apeshit crazy, only tighten a little bit at a time, something like 1/6 or less, and observe closely how the neck is reacting. It's not nuclear physics.

This is true! However, it should be handled with a step-by-step procedure! Yeah, it sounds like surgery.

However, learning which way to turn before cranking/turning is important! And, I'm with the majority that say no more than 1/4 to 1/2 turn per day of the truss rod-per day is very, very important. In other words, if your bass needs 1 1/2 turns of the truss rod, it should take days to reach that point with several adjustments. A foot long straight edge or ruler should help greatly in 'sighting' the neck for further adjustment(s).

What many articles do not mention is adjusting 1/4 turn, waiting a few days, and adjusting again if necessary! "If you've got a long way to go, say a half inch, it might be wise to adjust, then let it sit for a few days, then adjust again. It's like jacking up an old house, do it slow and you have a much lesser chance of breaking anything."

Make sure you are turning in the direction needed, not the wrong way!

rito25 · #10 11-02-2010, 10:26 AM

Know, I heard checking height of the strings by pressing down on the 1st and 17th fret and looking at 7th and 1st and 12th then looking at the 7th. Which do you guys prefer.
Also I assume I have to detune the strings, adjust the truss then bring them back up to tune correct?

OOZMAN · #11 11-13-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rito25

Know, I heard checking height of the strings by pressing down on the 1st and 17th fret and looking at 7th and 1st and 12th then looking at the 7th. Which do you guys prefer.
Also I assume I have to detune the strings, adjust the truss then bring them back up to tune correct?

Check the height by pressing down on the first fret, and pressing down on the strings above the pickup area 'till they touch the highest fret, then look at the distance between the 12th fret and string. A good distance is about a credit card width; if you stick a credit card in there it should go in with a small amount of resistance. This is much easier if you capo the 1st fret... or have 2 people. Keep in mind when doing this, that all strings should be the same distance to the fretboard, otherwise you 'board is bowed, therefore f****d

I've never heard of having to detune the strings before adjusting the TR, I've never done that and my basses are fine. But YMMV. I suppose if you're strings are already tight, when you tighten the TR they will become tighter (higher tuned), so it couldn't hurt to do that too though, I guess.

rito25 · #12 11-14-2010, 06:54 AM

OOZMAN I think it is fine.

dannster · #13 11-14-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rito25

The bass feels fine, and plays fine.

The old saying "if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it" comes to mind.

No harm in learning how to do simple adjustments on your bass however.