TI Jazz flats question

Jbroad572 · #1 11-14-2005, 02:18 PM

I remember quite a few people saying that these strings were somewhat loose. I installed some on my Brice HXB405 fretless and they are quite firm and tight and high tension. I did by the 34" scale strings (my bass is 35" scale) and they fit fine and I had more than enough length when I strung them. I was hopping they'd be looser than what they are.

jacove · #2 11-14-2005, 02:23 PM

that's probably because you have put on a 34" set, then the string will be tighter turned to pitch...normally these strings are LOOSE...you will have a problem with finding looser strings than the TI Jazz series...

Jbroad572 · #3 11-14-2005, 02:39 PM

I was guessing that was the reason. I guess I can't do anything about it now though, since I've already strung up my bass.

Squidfinger · #4 11-14-2005, 03:43 PM

Why change them? Once these strings mellow out they will rule you!!!!!!!!

Jbroad572 · #5 11-14-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Squidfinger

Why change them? Once these strings mellow out they will rule you!!!!!!!!

I love the sound I am getting, they are just not as loose as I was anticipating, they are actually quite tight. I can live with it, but I was hoping they'd be looser, like I said.

Jbroad572 · #6 11-14-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim__x

No, do a search on the physics of vibrating strings (on Google or TB), vibrating length (scale length), tension (varied by your tuners) and mass per unit of length (set by the string) are what matter, since both the 34" and 35" sets have the same mass per unit of length, they will be at the same tension when tuned up on the same instrument.

Well, if thats the case, they are tuned and tight. Wish they were looser, but oh well... I will just deal with it.

Tim__x · #7 11-14-2005, 05:15 PM

Oops, I went to edit my message (I wanted to reword part of it) and accidentally deleted it

, good thing Jbroad quoted it.

Tim__x · #8 11-14-2005, 05:20 PM

I was just assuming that the two sets were the same gauge, now that I look into it I see that the "super-long" scale set is actually a higher gauge than the 34" set! If you had purchased the 35/6" set the tension would be even higher!

Lowtonejoe · #9 11-14-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbroad572

I remember quite a few people saying that these strings were somewhat loose. I installed some on my Brice HXB405 fretless and they are quite firm and tight and high tension. I did by the 34" scale strings (my bass is 35" scale) and they fit fine and I had more than enough length when I strung them. I was hopping they'd be looser than what they are.

I heard that they were just looser than other flats and that flats in general were pretty tight.

But then I've heard lots of things.....

TIJF's are the only flats I've used but I will say that I love them on my P.

Joe.

Andy Daventry · #10 11-16-2005, 06:21 AM

If you tune down half a step or so, you will get a tension and sound more TI-like. I tune my 35 and a half inch bass a whole tone down as I don't like the high tension normal tuning gives you on the TIs with longer scales. TIs are VERY sensitive to tension differences. Try tuning down and see how you like the sound.

Slater · #11 11-16-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowtonejoe

I heard that they were just looser than other flats and that flats in general were pretty tight.

To me, TI Jazz Flats have about the same tension as round-core roundwound strings.

bgavin · #12 11-16-2005, 07:47 PM

As far as measurements go, the TI Jazz Flats are very close to GHS Boomer B52 Alloy 52, and a few pounds tighter than TI Jazz Rounds, which are the lowest tension strings I have in my spread sheet.

Download my spread sheet, which has a lot of tension measurements in the STRINGS section.