What do i do when a .118 on a low E is still has not enough tight tension

RBX4 · #1 09-22-2011, 03:55 PM

Still wobbly :-( on my drop D sum like this I don't .

kb9wyz · #2 09-22-2011, 04:02 PM

That should tune just fine to a B without problems. It would be light for a B, but my point is is that for D, you should have no issues at all. So I'm trying to guess what your problem is, then. Could you define "wobbly"?

jacostilllives · #3 09-22-2011, 04:09 PM

Try hex core strings.

mmbongo · #4 09-22-2011, 04:15 PM

Purchase a 5 string bass?

RBX4 · #5 09-22-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kb9wyz

That should tune just fine to a B without problems. It would be light for a B, but my point is is that for D, you should have no issues at all. So I'm trying to guess what your problem is, then. Could you define "wobbly"?

I'm a pick player so when I strike I get that vibration, which I don't like.

kb9wyz · #6 09-22-2011, 04:23 PM

Vibration is what makes sound. What KIND of vibration are you having a problem with? Are you getting fret buzz or some other kind of thing. I assume you're not talking about fret buzz because you should have set up the bass for the heavier string already.

RBX4 · #7 09-22-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kb9wyz

Vibration is what makes sound. What KIND of vibration are you having a problem with? Are you getting fret buzz or some other kind of thing. I assume you're not talking about fret buzz because you should have set up the bass for the heavier string already.

That answers it heavier I go.. 120! I have a 125 on a fender tuned to c and that's fine btw

ixlramp · #8 09-22-2011, 04:40 PM

That's a Circle K set? They're very flexible, which is a good thing, but that also creates more sideways motion and lowers the perceived tension. Try the .124 set, flexible strings allow you to go tighter while remainig playable.

Are you switching between D and E? If so it's inevitable that a string that's tight at E will be much looser at D, it's a 25% drop in tension.

RBX4 · #9 09-22-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ixlramp

That's a Circle K set? They're very flexible, which is a good thing, but that also creates more sideways motion and lowers the perceived tension. Try the .124 set, flexible strings allow you to go tighter while remainig playable.

Are you switching between D and E? If so it's inevitable that a string that's tight at E will be much looser at D, it's a 25% drop in tension.

Omg dude! It is a circle k set, I don't alternate from e to d though... So I get the 124? Can you tell me complete 4? Ty man!

ixlramp · #10 09-22-2011, 06:38 PM

Heh i remember you saying you ordered a CKS set

Also ... who else sells .118s?

Okay so i assume you're tuned drop D DADG with the CKS .118 set ... The next heavier set is .124 .082 .061 .045 (47 pounds tension = medium-heavy).
Or perhaps even heavier? .130 .086 .065 .047 (51 pounds tension = heavy).
From here: vStandard Drop-tuned 4 Strings.

So what's the problem ... fret buzz? Did you set up the bass when you changed strings? You might need to raise the action and adjust the shape of the neck by tweaking the truss rod. Since CKS sets are tension balanced the total tension may be slightly lower than your last set (because the high strings are no longer over-tight like in traditional sets), this will flatten or backbow the neck, lower the action and cause fretbuzz, so you may need to slightly loosen the truss rod. You could also try picking closer to the bridge.

RBX4 · #11 09-23-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ixlramp

Heh i remember you saying you ordered a CKS set

Also ... who else sells .118s?

Okay so i assume you're tuned drop D DADG with the CKS .118 set ... The next heavier set is .124 .082 .061 .045 (47 pounds tension = medium-heavy).
Or perhaps even heavier? .130 .086 .065 .047 (51 pounds tension = heavy).
From here: vStandard Drop-tuned 4 Strings.

So what's the problem ... fret buzz? Did you set up the bass when you changed strings? You might need to raise the action and adjust the shape of the neck by tweaking the truss rod. Since CKS sets are tension balanced the total tension may be slightly lower than your last set (because the high strings are no longer over-tight like in traditional sets), this will flatten or backbow the neck, lower the action and cause fretbuzz, so you may need to slightly loosen the truss rod. You could also try picking closer to the bridge.

It's back from a set up.. :-( ill have to go heavier, but even though it's sounds like spaghetti I can tell it's primo string!

ixlramp · #12 09-23-2011, 04:35 PM

Cool ... The .124 set is only slightly tighter, so if you want a significant increase in tension go for the .130 set ... i seem to remember you play hard with a pick? If so i think you may need the .130 set. Anyways good luck in finding the perfect set

Hellbastard · #13 09-23-2011, 04:54 PM

get a 35" scale bass

RBX4 · #14 09-23-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ixlramp

Cool ... The .124 set is only slightly tighter, so if you want a significant increase in tension go for the .130 set ... i seem to remember you play hard with a pick? If so i think you may need the .130 set. Anyways good luck in finding the perfect set

Thanx man!

giacomini · #15 09-23-2011, 10:36 PM

Some people told me that Rotosounds, GHS and the hex core DR strings have a higher tension than other brands...

It was last year when I was looking for a less wobbly set for my 5 and my 4. I always used those regular .45 XL daddario rounds, and in the end of my quest I had the GHS in the 5er (medium-high tension) and a set of daddario Chromes in the 4 stringer (felt a lot higher tension than the XL set)

RBX4 · #16 09-23-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by giacomini

Some people told me that Rotosounds, GHS and the hex core DR strings have a higher tension than other brands...

It was last year when I was looking for a less wobbly set for my 5 and my 4. I always used those regular .45 XL daddario rounds, and in the end of my quest I had the GHS in the 5er (medium-high tension) and a set of daddario Chromes in the 4 stringer (felt a lot higher tension than the XL set)

I'm gonna go with the xl medium heavy 110-50 and just replace the 110 with a 120.. That should do it! Thanx for ur input btw!

KalTM · #17 09-23-2011, 10:59 PM

After reading this thread I just started browsing Circle Ks website, and I noticed they have a drop-tune 4 set of .254 .174 .130 .098. WOW! I can't even get a .120 through the bridge on my Dean Edge! Anybody actually use these sets?!

ixlramp · #18 09-23-2011, 11:58 PM

Circle K strings...
The .254 can be used for the C# of C#F#BEADG or octave-down B.

KalTM · #19 09-24-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ixlramp

Circle K strings...
The .254 can be used for the C# of C#F#BEADG or octave-down B.

Can you recommend any good players who play in this tuning? I would LOVE to hear it!

giacomini · #20 09-24-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KalTM

Can you recommend any good players who play in this tuning? I would LOVE to hear it!

Jauqo III-X, he's a member of TB. Great bass player, developed the concept of the sub contra bass.