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06-01-2004, 01:14 PM
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What is the advantage as far as tone with flatwounds on a P-bass? What kind of flats would you use? |
06-01-2004, 01:23 PM
|  | A Hard Rockin Abomination Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | | One deep thump, some motown type tones. I would say Thomastic Infeld or Roto sound.
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06-01-2004, 01:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Boston, Taxachusetts | | | Roundwound strings for bass didn't come onto the market until the late 1960s, so the most common bass guitar sound you hear on records well into the early 70s is a P-bass with flatwounds.
The most popular flats back in those days were the original Fender strings and LaBellas, today packaged as the "James Jamerson" set. Today there are many other brands and gauges of flats on the market to choose from. |
06-01-2004, 01:40 PM
| | I wish I could sing like Rick Danko. | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shreveport LA | | | Don't feel that using flats on a P is only for vintage music though, I use it for rock/metal and am quite happy. |
06-01-2004, 02:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Puyallup, WA | | | How do you think the Fender tapewrapped roundwounds would work? What about their nylon tapewound strings? |
06-01-2004, 03:28 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Xanadu How do you think the Fender tapewrapped roundwounds would work? What about their nylon tapewound strings? | I have never really liked the sound of those and prefer to either use flats or nickel rounds.
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06-01-2004, 03:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Puyallup, WA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by christle I have never really liked the sound of those and prefer to either use flats or nickel rounds.
Dan | So you would use either stainless flat or roundwounds? What about tapewounds? |
06-01-2004, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu So you would use either stainless flat or roundwounds? What about tapewounds? | What I meant was that I didn't like the tapewounds. The feel and sound was all wrong for me. Sorry I wasn't more clear
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06-01-2004, 04:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx | | | Ive never played flatwounds but are afraid they will be more 'dead' sounding. Is this true? I see most people describe the sound as 'thumpy'. How is the sustain on flatwounds? I play a more upbeat melodic rock type music. |
06-01-2004, 04:40 PM
|  | Fingers, pick, and a little bit of slap | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Terrapin country (Crofton, MD) | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by MascisMan Ive never played flatwounds but are afraid they will be more 'dead' sounding. Is this true? I see most people describe the sound as 'thumpy'. How is the sustain on flatwounds? I play a more upbeat melodic rock type music. | One person's "dead" is another person's "thumpy". Sustain on flatwounds is almost always less than rounds, but that can be a good thing, depending. Hell, some flatwound users put a chunk of foam under the bridge (a la Jamerson) for less sustain/more thump/better note definition.
But just as with roundwounds, there's lots of variety in flatwounds. There are also half-round and pressure-wound strings, which are compromises between rounds and flats.
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06-01-2004, 05:04 PM
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I agree. What I think is dead isn't to most. Buy a couple different sets of strings and try them for yourself in a band setting, not in your room. For me, roundwounds all the way. For you, who knows? Check it out for yourself
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06-01-2004, 05:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greenville, South Cackalacky | | | Not to hijack your your thread or anything, but how do flats sound on a Jazz?
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06-01-2004, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SMASH | Your tone is orgasmic.
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06-01-2004, 08:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan | | | About nylon flatwounds:do a search on LaBella Deep Talking Nylon wrapped. Many people on this forum like them. I have them on three basses. They enhance the woodyt tone of any bass and provide clear pitch and medium sustain. They are actually roundwounds under the nylon, so sustain a bit better than some flatwounds. Very cool tone. |
06-01-2004, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SMASH |
Gotta' love a muted trumpet!
That's really nice Smash- particularly when it comes off the first guitar lead and you go back into the main hook.
Do you find you can cut through the mix very well a jazz and flats? |
06-01-2004, 08:22 PM
| | Fine gear enthusiast | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: mo | | Smash - your tone is awesome... I loved that clip.
Looks like time to string one of my Jazzes with flats.  |
06-01-2004, 08:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana | | | Flats really don't have alot of character when you are by yourself practicing. Where they shine is in a group situation, but the problem is they get taken off before the player gets to try them because they sound dull by themselves. I use TI flats with my CS P-bass and they really add support in a gig situation. They are supportive without being over the top, and they never disappear in the mix, they are always there. It is kindof hard to explain. |
06-01-2004, 08:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville TN | | | I also like flats because they are easier on the old fingertips, when you go a few weeks without playing and the callouses have gotten soft! |
06-01-2004, 08:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Puyallup, WA | | Fender makes a tapewrapped roundwound - like a tapewound with a roundwound core. What about these on a P? Their description alludes to having more treble than a pure nylon tapewound because the roundwound core reacts with the pickups. Here's the link: http://www.stringitup.com/fe71nyfibast.html |
06-02-2004, 12:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm from Venus. | |  Flatwounds on a Jazz Bass
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Originally Posted by freshmeat1989 Not to hijack your your thread or anything, but how do flats sound on a Jazz? |
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