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Old 05-20-2009, 08:43 AM
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Berlioz Roman Carnival- stroke- speed

Dear Patrick

I'm playing Roman Carnival this week, and we're taking it pretty quick- Are there any ideas you could give me that would help with playing it. I played it once, at IU, but I don't remember it being this hard. Some of my section play it way to off the string, and its sort of a-rhythmic, making it even harder!
What is good audition tempi for the fast passages-
Any other ideas would be swell. Strokes- keeping it closer to the string- fingering ideas- anything you could furnish me with!
Thanks Patrick- hope all is well
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:24 PM
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Wow! Roman Carnival

Hey there! Good to know some great music is in your life! But I have to admit, I have no magical fingerings to impart. Main thing for me, especially for speedy scale passages, is to finger according to the rhythm: if it is duple, shift after every two or four notes, unless you do not need to. Be careful of shifting on non- beat or subdivision points. Every shift is heard, so it is good to put it on the accented beats or sub-beats. If the rhythm is triple, try to finger in triplets (using pivots works really well). Avoid complex string crossings, and in all those repeated patterns, try to make the string crossings the same.

On-the-string works well for forte quick stuff on the G and D strings, but may have to go off the string for better articulation on the A and E strings (again, depending on tempo). However, your Principal Bassist and the conductor may require an off the string sound (lighter) so you will be required to do it, and do it together! Agreed, when part of the section is playing one stroke and the other part another, it can only become muddy. Clarity of section performance is when all players are in agreement about the length and articulation of ALL notes! And, believe it or not, the section sounds LOUDER (or shall I say, more dynamic.. both louder and softer) when the articulations and lengths of notes match. A GREAT section to emulate would be the Dresden Phil section. Wow, are they ever clean and dynamic. And the orchestra actually listens to them!
Best to you... hope this helps a little anyway.
Patrick
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:12 PM
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Thanks so much Patrick!!!
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