Determining angle for laborie endpin

[danengland]

Hi Patrick
I am considering getting a labourie*endpin*and would like to ask you a couple of questions:

How did you work out the suitable angle and height (and even if an angled pin was what you wanted)to have the endpin*set at before having the bass drilled?

I am based in the UK and I am not aware of many laborie endpin users here. Do you think that it is possible to get used to an angled endpin without the guidance of a teacher who uses one?

Many thanks
Dan

[PNeher]

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the question
First, I HIGHLY recommend that you consult with someone that has this sort of end pin, face to face, in reference to you, your playing style, your stance, and your bass. There are those in England that have the pin and have studied with Rabbath. I unfortunately cannot think of a one at the moment, but I will inquire with FR.
The angle that I use is "standard" (sort of). Christian Laborie has published this angle in at least one ISB article, and if he has a web site, it should be there. I think it is 44 degrees. I also have it smack in the middle, not turned to either side. So the pin is in line with the back seam of the bass. I like it this way because the bass one normally learns how to balance from a balanced position (both sides having equal mass). Hopefully that makes sense.
The height is so that the nut is in line with my eye or eye brow, when the angle of playing the bass is optimal for the weight of the bow, and the mass of the arms falling on the bass -- "the weight falling through the bass to the floor. (-my quote).
Christian Laborie is amenable to contact about the angles, etc. Contacting him might be helpful, and you could find out if there is anyone in England you should consult with.

BEST!
Patrick

Originally Posted by danengland

Hi Patrick
I am considering getting a labourie*endpin*and would like to ask you a couple of questions:

How did you work out the suitable angle and height (and even if an angled pin was what you wanted)to have the endpin*set at before having the bass drilled?

I am based in the UK and I am not aware of many laborie endpin users here. Do you think that it is possible to get used to an angled endpin without the guidance of a teacher who uses one?

Many thanks
Dan

[PaulCannon]

Originally Posted by PNeher

Hi Dan,
There are those in England that have the pin and have studied with Rabbath. I unfortunately cannot think of a one at the moment, but I will inquire with FR.

Caroline Emery comes to mind. She's based in London.

44 degrees back is standard. If you are particularly tall or if your bass is particularly large, you might consider kicking the angle about 8 degrees toward the G-string side.

[danengland]

That's great,thanks for your replies. I will do as you suggest.
thanks
Dan

[labravajazz]

Originally Posted by PaulCannon

Caroline Emery comes to mind. She's based in London.

44 degrees back is standard. If you are particularly tall or if your bass is particularly large, you might consider kicking the angle about 8 degrees toward the G-string side.

I am also at present in UK and I have as a travelling bass a Laborie Q bass, compact light and surprisingly good tone. It has an angled pin facility and a wooden endpin apparently suitable for my 6'3" height. I am not experienced in this kind of pin and have just tried it since its there as an alternative, but it seems kind of springy being so long! I guess I need to consult with a practitioner of this type of technique - but any other advice out there?