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Old 09-15-2009, 06:48 PM
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Different brand/tension for each string

I'm building a mixed set of strings from different brands and tensions. I'm wondering if I will run into intonation problems if each string comes from a different gauge of string. The set I currently have has Spirocore Mittel for G A and E and Hybrid Helicore for the D string. I want to swap out the A for something with a higher tension. In the end I will have a pretty mixed set. Has anyone run into intonation problems from doing things like this?

And any suggestions for an A string with a little more tension? I'm thinking of trying the hybrid helicore heavy gauge.

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Old 09-15-2009, 09:39 PM
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My unofficial answer is "Sort of". I'm a recovering notorious string mixer and in theory, a well conceived matched set should be balanced. The gauge shouldn't have any crazy jumps and it tracks that if your bass is set up properly, the intonation points should line up predictably too.

I've played with brighter low register strings and darker high register strings, metal low with synth or gut high, etc. I've come up with some good combos, but there's always some evidence that you're not playing a matched set. Intonation might be one indication. Feel. Sound fundamental. Volume. Bow response (if you use one), etc. It's never a matched set.

That being said, the string companies don't always do a great job of balancing their sets. Pirastro has a few sets where the E seems one gauge off and a common fix is to go up a gauge in the same string set for the E. I know people who do the same thing with Spirocores. Most people agree that the Evah Pirazzi regular set has a slightly mismatched G string, sonically. So, having perfectly balanced set just by getting them all out of the same pack is not a sure thing. But, some sets are well balanced. I don't know anyone (who I believe) who claims to have a perfectly balanced mixed set.

Then there's the question of setup. I don't know how much experience you have with your bass or swapping strings, but a lot of difference can be made in sound, feel, tension, tone, etc through setup. I'm suspicious if you're trying to beef up one of the middle strings (A) that you've either got a bad set of strings now (or a bad string) or you've got a setup problem. It's a longer discussion and one you should have with a luthier, but I would think about having it before you go down the holy grail quest of the perfect mix and match string potion. It's the road to heartache and ruin...trust me.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:45 AM
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Thanks Troy,

I see what you are saying when it comes to set up. This issue arose after having a new bridge cut. I've had several adjustments made to the bridge curvature and still feel the A string is a little weak. Its height from the fingerboard is lower than on my last bridge so I'm looking for a heavier gauge string to increase the tension and volume. I've read posts from others who run into this problem where there bridge is cut to accomodate bowing of interior strings but causes an imbalance in regards to string height.


All this being said I feel I am almost there ... all other strings feel pretty much in balance. I just need a slightly heavier tension string for my A string. Any suggestions for a string a little heftier than spirocore mittels?
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:03 AM
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Well, you could try a Spirocore Stark. The sound great if you can handle the tension. I've never had them on my bass, but I've played them on someone else's. I would think that with a stark on the A, you might want the E too, but only experimentation will tell.

They are for manly men only!

Or, you could try a Thomastik Superflexible. Much closer to the mittel, but most people feel they have just that extra bit of tension.
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