Eudoxa versus Olive D

Bobby King · #1 04-28-2009, 08:37 AM

Does anyone have experience with a Eudoxa versus an Olive D string? I have an Olive G on now which is great, I have tried the Olive D in the past but always found it boomy and a bit thuddy. Is the Eudoxa D clearer and would it still work well next to the Olive G? Thanks!

Mark Carlsen · #2 04-28-2009, 08:59 AM

Bobby,
I just switched to a Eudoxa G and D after having Olives on for about 4 year's.. I think as far as the D string you would get more sustain and a more clear sound, but I don't like the feel of the silver wrap as compared to the chrome wrap. The G string is no contest...Olive wins hands down...IMHO, Etc...

T-Bal · #3 04-28-2009, 09:13 AM

+1. I've used both, and the Eudoxa has more clarity and less thud. The wrap is not as smooth, so there's more friction when shifting.

bassphase · #4 04-29-2009, 10:23 AM

I think the Eudoxa D is a better match for the Oliv G than the Oliv D which sounds kind of dull and flabby. The Eudoxa D is much better defined and seems to transition better from string to string

bob

Amin · #5 08-19-2009, 12:51 AM

Hello everybody.
I would like to know how Eudoxas are under the bow..

Sound, tension (it seems to be tighter than the Olivs), feeling, gauge...

I do know Olivs as I have them right now on my bass. So,if you like, a comparison with Olivs would help me to understand better..

I'm looking for a fat, dark, big volume, and easy to play string, but not floppy and with some clarity and capacity of articulation.

I love the tone of Olivs, it is so dark and fat, but I still have some difficulties in articulating every single note in those 32th or 16th orchestral passages.. and they are a little floppy under the bow..when I play with high bow-pressure, they don't help me..
On the contrary -while using conventional steel string- I had more clarity and articulation, but less volume and a thinner sound...

I was wondering if Eudoxa can support better an high pressure bowing-style because of their tension...and if they are dark and fat but more clear, still (thay don't flop..?), and have a big volume anyway...

Many thanks in advance for your opinions!

MR PC · #6 08-31-2009, 05:14 PM

I'm using the Oliv D in my mixed gut set now. It matches really well with the plain Goetz gut G, arco and pizz. The Oliv string becomes more supple (thuddy at first) and sings after some playing time.

Marcus Johnson · #7 08-31-2009, 05:24 PM

Yup, that's exactly what my Oliv D did.

William Hoffman · #8 09-03-2009, 05:29 AM

Bobby, did you ever try an Oliv D with your Oliv G? am thinking of doing the same and wondered how the two sound together. any follow up info you have would be appreciated!

Mark Carlsen · #9 09-03-2009, 08:58 AM

Well.... Doing a soundpost adjustment last night and after re-tuning the bass ....SNAP...

..... My fairly new $110.00 Eudoxa G string breaks in the peg box area !! So the old Olive G goes back on and it is settling in very nicely. A very good match for both pizz and arco and the tension feels very good... This could be the combo if you want wrapped gut on the G and D strings although the windings are always suspect and of course the cost...

Bobby King · #10 09-04-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by William Hoffman

Bobby, did you ever try an Oliv D with your Oliv G? am thinking of doing the same and wondered how the two sound together. any follow up info you have would be appreciated!

Hi William, sorry I missed your question.

I've used an Olive D in the past, but I didn't get another one this time around. In fact, I was using an Evah Pirazzi G&D with Spirocore Mittel E&A for several months, and I liked that combination. I had mixed feelings about the Olive D in the past, it was a bit boomy and thuddy at times, so I elected not to buy another. The G string is really the jewel of the Olive set, IMO. But I actually think that you get a very similar effect from Evah Pirazzis, and they are cheaper, more stable, and more durable.

I'm back to plain guts on top, they always keep calling my name

Phil Rowan · #11 09-04-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Carlsen

Well.... Doing a soundpost adjustment last night and after re-tuning the bass ....SNAP...

..... My fairly new $110.00 Eudoxa G string breaks in the peg box area !! So the old Olive G goes back on and it is settling in very nicely. A very good match for both pizz and arco and the tension feels very good... This could be the combo if you want wrapped gut on the G and D strings although the windings are always suspect and of course the cost...

Let Pirastro know about this. I've had their gut strings go bad on me a few times in the past and they've sent replacements. Worth a shot.

Mark Carlsen · #12 09-05-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Rowan

Let Pirastro know about this. I've had their gut strings go bad on me a few times in the past and they've sent replacements. Worth a shot.

Thanks Phil.... I have contacted Pirastro in the past and they are very good about replacement. I just did 2 nights of acoustic duo w. the old Olive back on the bass and I am real happy w. this set up. I still am mostly a steel guy, but once or twice a week I get to do these kind of gigs and its fun to try an navigate a bigger more sluggisg bass w. guts on top. Makes me appreciate what all my hero's went thru in the 40's and 50's.....

tww001 · #13 11-24-2009, 01:30 PM

I've been having the hankering to try a gut G string on my bass (which is currently strung with a full set of Evah Pirazzi light gage). I'm not dissatisfied with the EPs, just curious about gut. From what I've read here and in other threads I feel like I should give my first go-round with guts to an Oliv G, keeping the EPs on the other three strings. Has any body tried this combination, or recommend a different gut G to try?

olivieraleman · #14 11-27-2009, 09:26 PM

twwoo1
I currently have EP weich D,A, and E with an Oliv G I bought from a TB member. The Oliv G is great, but the Evah weich D and A sound a little anemic next to it, tho the E is ok. But that is kinda nitpicking I guess, its just that the Oliv G really sings and I wish I could find a D,A and E that do also. John

tww001 · #15 11-29-2009, 04:44 PM

Thanks John. I'm going to try it out as soon as I can afford to. I just moved this weekend, and have lots of related expenses (painting, etc.). Even if the Oliv G makes the Evah weich sound a little anemic, it will be worth trying, and seeing what else needs to come around.
Tim

David Kaczorowski · #16 11-29-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tww001

I've been having the hankering to try a gut G string on my bass (which is currently strung with a full set of Evah Pirazzi light gage). I'm not dissatisfied with the EPs, just curious about gut. From what I've read here and in other threads I feel like I should give my first go-round with guts to an Oliv G, keeping the EPs on the other three strings. Has any body tried this combination, or recommend a different gut G to try?

Oliv G and D work perfectly well on my bass w/ EP weich. I used to use Oliv G and D and Eudoxa A and E. The EP weichs are similar to the Eudoxas and the Olivs are as great as ever.

To the OP: Eud. D might be fine, it might not depending on your taste and bass. It will be a lot brighter than the Oliv. The gauge will be similar to the Oliv G and will be much looser feeling.

drew_bassmore · #17 11-29-2009, 05:20 PM

I am a few days into trying an Oliv G & D.

It is strung on a 1953 Kay C1. I left the Obligatos on the E & A. Pizzicato sounds very balanced. But I don't like the way the Obligatos bow, so I am thinking of trying either Spirocore Weichs or EP Weichs in place shortly.

I have EP Weichs on my Fully Carved (in the with The Bass Doctor right now). I like the strings in general, but Matt Bohn had me try a bass he had strung with Spirocore Mittels on E & A, and Eudoxas on G & D. It sounded really good and has me intrigued. I didn't try any arco on it though.

olivieraleman · #18 11-29-2009, 05:20 PM

David
Glad to here the Oliv D blends nice with the EP weichs, Im gonna try it with my bass. Thnx, john.