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01-12-2005, 07:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Quebec City, Quebec | | Bijoux, I would like to know who plays with the mathias thomas strings... I orderer a set on eBay... These are the worst strings I have ever played, very high tension, dumb sounding... I am really curious to hear any good comment about these strings.
My bass is now strung with Eurosonics light, and they are great for pizz.... smooth, loud, clear... I prefer them over the Obligatos for pizz. I also have a set of Spiro weich I keep if I ever need to bow... But I have never been asked to bow in any gig.  The technique that would bring me more phone calls would be slapping.
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01-12-2005, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by crocau My bass is now strung with Eurosonics light, and they are great for pizz.... smooth, loud, clear... | Hi Charles! Hope you're well!
How is the Eurosonic light E?
Is there much difference between the medium G I gave you and the light one?
Best,
François
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01-12-2005, 11:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denver-CO-USA | | | crocau!!?? Crocau,
I don't know who uses Mathias Thoma strings, I meant that as a joke, at the end of my post there was a smiley face. Anyway I was just being a little ironic. I think that there isn't the perfect string, some guys mix and match sets and I think they get closer to the real deal. I also think that as wonderful is Talkbass is, many times we get caught up with strings, speakers, this and that, and so on so forth, and I think that we tend to forget how much more important is to make music, and I am sure not everyone is like that. My point is that I love the sound that Mingus, Ray Brown, Gary Peacock and others used to get in the early days, and I can't imagine those guys going through some sort of string crisis, I would imagine that they just got their sound and made it work, and that is what is so inspiring about listening to those old records. Forgive me for going off like this, but I have certainly encouter people that blame strings, Eb flat neck versus D neck, bridge, tailpiece wire, endpin, or anything they can find for their lack of acomplishment playing the bass, although when I asked them to play I noticed that they simply didn't have it together and had to rely so much in equipment.
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01-12-2005, 12:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Quebec City, Quebec | | | François, I am happy to hear from you.
I feel the Eurosonic light E is a little less loud than the other three strings, but this is subtle and it is a problem I have encountered with most strings.
The medium G you gave me has a little more tension than the light one. Thanks again ! I received a new light G with which did strange buzzes between the C# and the F, anywas, I just putted your medium G which is fine.
I really enjoy the Eurosonics, i feel very confortable with them and playing for long time. The next time I play YYZ with my band, i might not have to switch to the electric bass, thanks to these strings ! Bijoux, Sorry I did not understand the irony. I agree with you the bass gods probably don't waste that much time with equipment... but isn't equipment the main object of this website ??
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01-12-2005, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by crocau but isn't equipment the main object of this website ?? | I guess I disagree with you there. I think we are all into learning something, and of course I myself have learned a lot about equipment, but there is a lot more that we can share, I know some guys that are amazing, wonderful musicians and they never even thought about changing strings, I know one guy that uses the same set of tomastiks spirocores for over 25 years now! he sounds great, when I ask he he's going to get new strings he was confused, he asked:" why?", I think that my point is that a lot of guys don't give themselves time to create a sound, to develop their own sound, or to even discover a new sound.
How can you really tell what a string is going to be like, and how your bass is going to react to a set of string, and even how you are going to like the set if you don't try 'em for at least 8 months to a year?
Your instrument changes with weather and also adjusts to new strings overtime, and you adjust as well, and a lot change untill you can really tell you have reached the point of arrival where things are not gonna change anymore and that's what to be expected.
Especially strings that are not made of metal may take a lot more time to settle.
I particularly like to enjoy the changes as they happen, and I think it's fun to adapt to every new change, and it's also challenging, but it forces you to be in the moment and to ultimately create music with what you have.
I wish to share my thoughts and hear other people's thoughts on Talkbass, and that is the whole reason of the website for me.
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01-14-2005, 11:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: st. paul, mn | | | my take on Anima and Garbos (after 10 months) I used the Garbo set first. This is definitely the "Pizz" set.
Lots of volume, very growly. If found the "E" to be too metallic, sort of like a Sprocore Weich. The unwound "G" was the best unwound gut I've used, but still didn't match the tone and punch of the E, A, and D. I wouldn't bow these strings unless you can stand the sound of Spirocores arco.
The Animas are a (little) better arco string. The "G" is wrapped and matches the others better. The "E" is also more mellow. I eventually switched to an Obbligato "E". (I know Velvet frowns on mixing strings, (sorry, guys)).
Both sets are thick, low tension strings. Set up high, they produce a lot of acoustic volume. The tone is even from string to string. The metallic tone mellows after a week or two. Ater a week, the pitch is very stable in all sorts of weather. They are the most unique string I've used.
I used the Garbos for 6 months. my bass took a bad knock and the wrap on the "D" broke. I couldn't save it, and this, combined with the tone of the E and G, prompted me to try the Animas. I've them about 10 months...hope this helps | 
01-22-2005, 10:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: L.A. | | | Last week I put the Eurosonics back on. The Animas are a very nice string, but I have been playing a few jobs were I miss the magnetic pickup's clarity. This is frustrating. I wish the Eurosonics would bow as well as the Animas did. Maybe I will try scratching them up even more with the sandpaper. I feel like I will probably go back to the Animas at some point. I still feel like the Eurosonics have a more even tension across all four strings though. The Anima's E and A seemed to have a lot less tension than the Eurosonic Ultra Light E and A.
How do the Garbos compare to the Animas and the Eurosonics? I understand they are a bit thicker than the Animas and have a nylon wrapped G. The Eurosonics deffinately have more sustain in the higher register than the Animas did on my bass. I also think that the Animas are ment to be at a higher action than the Eurosonics. I like that I can have these thick strings with low action. It sounds good on my bass like that. I am curious about the Garbos though. | 
01-22-2005, 11:24 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | I still like the Innovation 140H for a large diameter string that sounds close to gut and bows wonderfully. I think you would like them. | 
01-22-2005, 01:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: L.A. | | | Adrian, are the Inovations a streel core or synthetic? What is the tension comparable to? | 
01-22-2005, 07:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | The Innovations have a synthetic core. I can't remember what they call it, but they are similar to Dominants. The diameter being a bit thicker. I like them. They feel nice. | 
01-23-2005, 09:57 AM
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These strings are made by Picato, by the way.
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01-26-2005, 04:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: L.A. | | | I just listened to a recording of myself from about a year ago and I was using the Solo Obligatos. They sounded really good pizz and arco and I am getting sentimental for that sound. I remember the only thing that I didn't really like about them was they didn't really cut through a loud band with horns that well and I have now been used to a thicker G string. Maybe I'll try these again. I did use them for over a year.
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01-31-2005, 03:30 PM
| | | | Any Noticeable Differences Between Euros Light vs. Ultra-Light? Greetings,
Just joined the forum. Have been using Thomastik Dominants on my old Kay bass in the bluegrass band here locally. Considering switching to gut or Eurosonics - looking for something that will go easier on my part-time chops. My question: Is there much difference in tension and/or sound between the Eurosonic light and ultra-light strings? How do they compare to the Thomastiks? Any other suggestions I might consider?
Thanks in advance, great to find a forum like this :-)
JRube | 
02-01-2005, 07:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Quebec City, Quebec | | | Eurosonics light are incredible strings, really soft, and about as load and articulate as Spiros. Alas, they can't really be bowed.
I have never tried Ultralights, but lights are great. Next time, I might consider medium, since i play a lot of jazz pizz. They are way softer than the Thomastik. Labella Blacktape are supposed to be comparable.
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