Evah Pirazzi vs. Dominants

[Barcza]

I have EP on my bass, I love this strings, but they dies too early for me.
I think to go to Dominants. Could you explain the tonal and feel differences of the two strings, mostly I interested the G string.

[kwd]

Originally Posted by Barcza

I have EP on my bass, I love this strings, but they dies too early for me.
I think to go to Dominants. Could you explain the tonal and feel differences of the two strings, mostly I interested the G string.

I've had the EP Weichs on my bass for about 10 months and they're starting to sound tired. Dominants were on my bass before that. I will be returning to Dominants. They (Doms) have a more aggressive sound that I prefer for jazz playing and they feel a lot stiffer -which I prefer. Many people have said that EPs project better on their basses than Dominants. I have not found that to be the case. The arco sound is good. Dominants seem to produce a lot of string noise when bowed from the vantage point of the player but it's not as noticeable to the listener.

Dominants aren't known for long life span so I'm not sure they won't 'die early' for you. In my experience, they've lasted longer than the EPs . They're also known for breakage and the open A string is difficult to bow. With all those negatives, I think Dominants remain my favorite string.

[sejarus]

I agree with KWD's comments. About a month ago I replaced a set of Dominants with EP Weichs. I'd had the Doms on for a little over a year, and Spiro Mittels before them. The Weichs lasted a week before I went back to the Dominants. I guess I've just gotten so accustomed to the stiffer feel and sustain of those strings that the Weichs didn't feel right to my fingers or ears.

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by kwd

I've had the EP Weichs on my bass for about 10 months and they're starting to sound tired. Dominants were on my bass before that. I will be returning to Dominants. They (Doms) have a more aggressive sound that I prefer for jazz playing and they feel a lot stiffer -which I prefer. Many people have said that EPs project better on their basses than Dominants. I have not found that to be the case. The arco sound is good. Dominants seem to produce a lot of string noise when bowed from the vantage point of the player but it's not as noticeable to the listener.

Agreed on all counts. I had EP weichs on my backup bass before I sold it. They weren't bad, but Dominants have the mojo I'm looking for.

[Barcza]

Originally Posted by kwd

I've had the EP Weichs on my bass for about 10 months and they're starting to sound tired. Dominants were on my bass before that. I will be returning to Dominants. They (Doms) have a more aggressive sound that I prefer for jazz playing and they feel a lot stiffer -which I prefer. Many people have said that EPs project better on their basses than Dominants. I have not found that to be the case. The arco sound is good. Dominants seem to produce a lot of string noise when bowed from the vantage point of the player but it's not as noticeable to the listener.

Dominants aren't known for long life span so I'm not sure they won't 'die early' for you. In my experience, they've lasted longer than the EPs . They're also known for breakage and the open A string is difficult to bow. With all those negatives, I think Dominants remain my favorite string.

EPs are are seems over after 10 months for me too. So, you say Doms has completely different sound and feel than EPs. More aggressive means more loud, more bright? I interested in Dominant G to use blended with Sprocore Mittel D/A/E. That, you say the Doms a lot stiffer than EP is not a good news for me, because I really don't like stiff, tight, hi tension strings, but if the tension is not higher than EP regular ( it was OK for me when was new, but after 10 months get stiffer ) I can live with it. For me the most important expectation from a G string is the sound complexity and the possibility to play solos in a melodic way.

[kwd]

Originally Posted by Barcza

...I interested in Dominant G to use blended with Sprocore Mittel D/A/E. That, you say the Doms a lot stiffer than EP is not a good news for me, because I really don't like stiff, tight, hi tension strings, but if the tension is not higher than EP regular ( it was OK for me when was new, but after 10 months get stiffer ) I can live with it. For me the most important expectation from a G string is the sound complexity and the possibility to play solos in a melodic way.

I was comparing the stiffness to EP Weichs (lights). I have not used EP Regulars so I'm not sure how they compare to Dominants in tension. In tension I think Doms are between Spiro Weich and Mittel but they're stiff so they tend to feel higher in tension than, say, a string with same tension but less stiffness. When you take Dominants out of the packaging they have a tendency to want to unwind and return to a linear position.

A lot of people have used a Dom G with Spiro Mittels with good results. I'm pretty sure there's a fairly recent thread on that topic.

[Barcza]

Originally Posted by kwd

In tension I think Doms are between Spiro Weich and Mittel

That's sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by kwd

When you take Dominants out of the packaging they have a tendency to want to unwind and return to a linear position.

It's the same with EP regulars.

[kwd]

I put the Dominants back on Friday evening and wondered why I ever strayed.

[bejoyous]

I've played with Obligattos, Dominants and Evah P's for about 10 years. I found that all perlon core strings only have about a 10 month life span and then they suddenly die. I think when certain percentage of little strands inside break and dirt gets in through the windings, the string loses it good tone.

Since switching to Spiro mittel G, D and A and a stark E, I've been much happier with my sound and playability. I play about 90% arco and 10% pizz.

Also, giving your perlon core strings a good deep cleaning to get the dirt out from between the windings will give you another 2 or 3 months of good tone. (Loosen string, use methyl hydrate on a face cloth and run it up and down the string while bending the string into an "S" shape around your fingers. Keep doing it until no more black appears on the cloth. Retighten string and go on to the next one.)

[drurb]

Originally Posted by bejoyous

I've played with Obligattos, Dominants and Evah P's for about 10 years. I found that all perlon core strings only have about a 10 month life span and then they suddenly die. I think when certain percentage of little strands inside break and dirt gets in through the windings, the string loses it good tone.

Since switching to Spiro mittel G, D and A and a stark E, I've been much happier with my sound and playability. I play about 90% arco and 10% pizz.

Also, giving your perlon core strings a good deep cleaning to get the dirt out from between the windings will give you another 2 or 3 months of good tone. (Loosen string, use methyl hydrate on a face cloth and run it up and down the string while bending the string into an "S" shape around your fingers. Keep doing it until no more black appears on the cloth. Retighten string and go on to the next one.)

Hmm... as you likely know, de-tuning and re-tuning synthetic core strings can, itself, shorten their lifespan. Dominants, in particular, are not very forgiving in that regard.

[Barcza]

Originally Posted by bejoyous

Also, giving your perlon core strings a good deep cleaning to get the dirt out from between the windings will give you another 2 or 3 months of good tone. (Loosen string, use methyl hydrate on a face cloth and run it up and down the string while bending the string into an "S" shape around your fingers. Keep doing it until no more black appears on the cloth. Retighten string and go on to the next one.)

Thanks, I tired and works!