Gut to Steel

ERIC A · #1 10-08-2009, 07:18 PM

I am considering setting up one of my basses with Steel or Synthetic strings. So I was wondering if anybody out there made the switch and if so, what steel or synthetic string made the transaction the least "painful"
Thanks!

ctxbass · #2 10-08-2009, 10:00 PM

I could make some suggestions, but it would be easier knowing your reason for setting up a "gutless bass". Do you want the same sound without the environmental issues, a different sound, more sustain, etc.

ERIC A · #3 10-09-2009, 09:11 AM

I am looking for something more modern. Later Ray Brown recordings would be a good bench mark. I have tried to make the switch in the past, but have never been able to stick with it. The stings were either to high tension or to small in diameter. So, I was hoping to hear from gut players who had made the switch and were able to stick with.

Thanks!!

**Francois Blais** · #4 10-09-2009, 09:23 AM

As far as I know, Ray Brown was playing on Spirocores in his later years, but he didn't have the usual Spiro sound.
The best proof the sound is in your hands, methinks!

That said, if you want a steel string with a very dark tone and thumpy tone, you may look at Jargars. (and also available in three gauges)

best regards,
François

ctxbass · #5 10-09-2009, 10:50 AM

As far as synthetic strings, I found Innovation Honeys to have a gut type attack with a more modern sounding envelope and finish. They are very comfortable coming from gut.
For steel strings, I like Superflexibles. The tension might be a bit too much at first, but you can lower the strings and get a more modern sound without as much zing as Spirocores. They also come in a solo gauge if you want the strings a bit higher.
All steel D and G strings will feel small coming from gut, but you can get used to it.

Much depends upon your bass and setup, and, As Francois said, it is in the hands.

ERIC A · #6 10-09-2009, 10:51 AM

Thanks for the info! I agree that the sound is in your hands, but the strings help. I think what always stays consistent is your style. You can tell the difference in Ray's sound from the early Oscar P. Trio days to his later solo recordings. I believe that is true of Sam Jones as well. But many of the "Gods" made the switch, so I am just wondering what has worked for other “mortal” gut players when they made the switch.

Thanks again!!