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Old 11-25-2010, 09:07 AM
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Helicore Hybird Light vs Spirocore Weich

My Shen SB-90 came strung with and set up for Helicore Hybrid Lights. I would like to try something else, and since the Spirocore Weich set seems consistently highly recommended I was considering those. The luthier who set up my bass properly sized the nut and bridge slots to fit the Helicore Hybrid Lights and I would like to avoid having to modify them much. The diameters I have been able to find for the Weichs seem very close to the ones I measured (with an inexpensive set of dial calipers), so I think they will probably fit well.

What sound and feel difference should I expect from this change? I am a pizz-only guy (bluegrass), so differences in arco don't really matter to me.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:20 PM
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Good Sir,

I don't have any experience with the Spiros but I too bought a bass that had Helicore Hybrids, though I think mine were the mediums. I went with Corelli 370F the mediums and I really loved those strings. I didn't play a lot of arco, but they sounded great when I did, they broke in quickly and were very easy on the left paw.

In short I would highly recommend them especially for a player after my own heart/wallet jamming bluegrass.

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Old 11-25-2010, 12:24 PM
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If I may inquire - how much silk (in inches/mm - from the ball end) is there on the D'Addarios you're playing?
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If I may inquire - how much silk (in inches/mm - from the ball end) is there on the D'Addarios you're playing?
About 5". Why?
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:35 PM
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For bluegrass, I think you might be happier with the darker sounding Evah Pirazzi Weich set. They sound wonderful on my student's SB80. That said, Spiro Weichs are great strings.
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:09 PM
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The EP Weich does sound like perhaps it suits what I am looking for, thanks for the tip.
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Upon more research, I decided to go with the EP Weich. Found a member here selling a new set for a good price, so the deal is done and now I wait for them to show up. Looks like I may have to widen the nut slots on the G & D due to the larger diameter, but it's not a lot of change:

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Helicore Hybrid Light	0.044  0.053  0.084  0.111
Evah Pirazzi Weich	0.059  0.070  0.089  0.110
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:21 PM
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About 5". Why?
I had hoped they'd work on a 4/4 bass - thanks for filling me in.
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I have been plowing though the EP megathreads and I have come to these conclusions:

They are easy on the left hand, and they are hard on the left hand

They are louder than Spiros and aren't as loud as Spiros

They are very stiff, but they are kind of floppy.

Sure glad I read all that stuff so I know what to expect!
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:43 PM
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I have been plowing though the EP megathreads and I have come to these conclusions:

They are easy on the left hand, and they are hard on the left hand

They are louder than Spiros and aren't as loud as Spiros

They are very stiff, but they are kind of floppy.

Sure glad I read all that stuff so I know what to expect!
You'll only know when you try them on your bass and hear how they sound and feel.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:44 PM
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You'll only know when you try them on your bass and hear how they sound and feel.
Hey, I am really looking forward to it. Probably put them on towards the end of next week. Thanks again for the suggestion!
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:55 PM
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I had hoped they'd work on a 4/4 bass - thanks for filling me in.
I've had D'Addarios on my 44.5" 4/4 Strunal - a few different sets. Unless you have an abnormally long afterlength, they should work fine.
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