installing new strings

[JAS]

I am putting my new strings on and i can not get my d string to stay in the peg. it keeps poping out and slipping out when i try to tune it up to pitch. what am i supposed to do about this?

[Francois Blais]

Is there at least a small lenght of string that comes out of the peg's hole?
The trick is to wind the first turn on one side of the excess string, then wind the rest on the other side so when you bring up the tension, the excess string will be strangled between the turns, if you know what I mean.
(my primary language is french so it's not easy for me to describe all this in english...)

Hope this helps!

[JAS]

i just tried this and it did not work. it sliped of again.

[Wil Davis]

Is there enough to go through the hole, around, and through the hole again? I watched my teacher/luthier re-string my DB recently and this was his method. He started by cutting the string so that it was about 8 or 9 inches above the peg. The D is usually the most awkward as it's the one with the least room in the peg-box.

- Wil

[oldsaw]

I posted this in this thread.
http://talkbass.com/forum/showthread...4&pagenumber=1
It has worked for me.
Mark

[JAS]

I finally got it! I wound the string through the hole twice instead of just once and this makes it impossible to slip. thanks!

[Don Higdon]

Just try putting your E thru twice.

[JAS]

Very funny, I have tried that before.

[Billdog]

I played classical guitar for a year before switching to bass guitar(picking up DB this summer). I tell you what, there is nothing quite as bad as stringing a classical's nylon top strings! But anyway, what I would do is wrap the end around the post once before putting it through the hole. I would take the tip of the string OVER the long side of the string when it encounters itself again, then go down through the hole. Clamping effect. I would also sometimes put it through the hole twice like you all said. That works well too. Seeing as I have no experience stringing a DB, you can all feel free to ignore this if you want. Just thought I'd share. Oh, almost forgot, definitely leave as much spare string hanging out the end of the peg hole so if it slips a little before "clamping" on itself you're still ok. I also read in BP magazine that you aren't supposed to cut the ends of DB strings anyway, so that's probably good advice to follow.

[TizzleNizz]

Originally Posted by Billdog

I played classical guitar for a year before switching to bass guitar(picking up DB this summer). I tell you what, there is nothing quite as bad as stringing a classical's nylon top strings! But anyway, what I would do is wrap the end around the post once before putting it through the hole. I would take the tip of the string OVER the long side of the string when it encounters itself again, then go down through the hole. Clamping effect. I would also sometimes put it through the hole twice like you all said. That works well too. Seeing as I have no experience stringing a DB, you can all feel free to ignore this if you want. Just thought I'd share. Oh, almost forgot, definitely leave as much spare string hanging out the end of the peg hole so if it slips a little before "clamping" on itself you're still ok. I also read in BP magazine that you aren't supposed to cut the ends of DB strings anyway, so that's probably good advice to follow.

Amen to that. If u want a challenge, try re-stringing a Classical guitar. Possibly the hardest instrument to restring.

[Marcus Johnson]

I dunno, I heard piano is a little tricky.

[MerryPrankster]

Harp.....

[MonetBass]

Originally Posted by TizzleNizz

Amen to that. If u want a challenge, try re-stringing a Classical guitar. Possibly the hardest instrument to restring.

Never had a major problem re-stringing my classical. Getting the bridge end right is the hardest. Now my electric, on the other hand... those slip out, especially the top E. Can't wait to change my DB strings. Never done it before.

[billyfalconer]

Originally Posted by Wil Davis

cutting the string so that it was about 8 or 9 inches above the peg...

I've read and heard repeatedly, including from manufacturers, that you shouldn't do that. It can lead to the string separating and unwinding internally.

[pierre]

there's another thread changing strings here Changing strings

with pictures

[drurb]

Originally Posted by billyfalconer

I've read and heard repeatedly, including from manufacturers, that you shouldn't do that. It can lead to the string separating and unwinding internally.

+1. I'd never cut them. Here's a nice link that's been cited here before.

[CPike]

Originally Posted by Billdog

I played classical guitar for a year before switching to bass guitar(picking up DB this summer). I tell you what, there is nothing quite as bad as stringing a classical's nylon top strings! But anyway, what I would do is wrap the end around the post once before putting it through the hole. I would take the tip of the string OVER the long side of the string when it encounters itself again, then go down through the hole. Clamping effect.

I play classical guitar as well, and when I was young had lots of difficulty stringing - but after experimenting I figured out a few tricks, including the clamping effect you mentioned. This won't work on DB for a couple of reasons. First, the A & E strings are too thick, and the peg hole is normally too small to allow this. Second, a nylon classical guitar string is thin and flexible enough to withstand being bent over itself without breaking, but the multi-layered core and wrapping construction of a DB string would likely break before you got the loop close enough to clamp.

Chris